Re: [whatwg] allow in body + DOM position as a rendering hint

2014-11-04 Thread Ilya Grigorik
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > > Re, re-evaluation previous elements: note that UA *can*, just as it does > > today (modulo some error conditions), hold painting until it finds all > the > > stylesheets, regardless of the position in the document. So, > > assuming that's t

Re: [whatwg] allow in body + DOM position as a rendering hint

2014-11-04 Thread Ilya Grigorik
On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Simon Pieters wrote: > A bare or

Re: [whatwg] HTML video and IE, Safari, Firefox, Chrome

2014-11-04 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 3:46 AM, Martin Hoernig wrote: > Thank you Rob! > > I'm not sure what this means: >> >> Firefox fires the canplaythrough event after buffering is completed or >>> halted instead of a bandwidth depending solution >>> >>> Do you mean that even when the data is arriving at

Re: [whatwg] [url] Feedback from TPAC

2014-11-04 Thread Sam Ruby
On 11/04/2014 11:25 AM, Domenic Denicola wrote: From: whatwg [mailto:whatwg-boun...@lists.whatwg.org] On Behalf Of David Singer (I don't have IE to hand at the moment). I tried to test IE but unfortunately it looks like the "URL components from DOM properties" part of the demo page does not

Re: [whatwg] [url] Feedback from TPAC

2014-11-04 Thread Domenic Denicola
From: whatwg [mailto:whatwg-boun...@lists.whatwg.org] On Behalf Of David Singer > (I don't have IE to hand at the moment). I tried to test IE but unfortunately it looks like the "URL components from DOM properties" part of the demo page does not work in IE, I think because IE doesn't support do

Re: [whatwg] [url] Feedback from TPAC

2014-11-04 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 4:50 PM, David Singer wrote: > really? Safari, Chrome and Opera all return what to me is eminently sensible > > stuff://www.app.com/a/b/banana It does seem like they allow for some different behavior here, indeed! We still need to special case schemes as e.g. "x" against

Re: [whatwg] [url] Feedback from TPAC

2014-11-04 Thread David Singer
On Nov 4, 2014, at 15:32 , Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 4:24 PM, David Singer wrote: >> at the moment I am more interested in understanding what the best behavior >> might be than majority voting > > I don't think there is disagreement about what better behavior might > b

Re: [whatwg] [url] Feedback from TPAC

2014-11-04 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 4:24 PM, David Singer wrote: > at the moment I am more interested in understanding what the best behavior > might be than majority voting I don't think there is disagreement about what better behavior might be in this case, if we skip over the details for the moment. Howev

Re: [whatwg] [url] Feedback from TPAC

2014-11-04 Thread David Singer
On Nov 4, 2014, at 15:09 , Sam Ruby wrote: > On 11/04/2014 09:55 AM, David Singer wrote: >> I am pretty puzzled why the base URL composed >> with the URL results not in >> >> stuff://www.app.com/a/b/banana >> >> but >> >> stuff:///banana >> >> Is this a bug or feature of the spec., or a b

Re: [whatwg] [url] Feedback from TPAC

2014-11-04 Thread Sam Ruby
On 11/04/2014 09:55 AM, David Singer wrote: I am pretty puzzled why the base URL composed with the URL results not in stuff://www.app.com/a/b/banana but stuff:///banana Is this a bug or feature of the spec., or a bug in this implementation? Please refresh. I've changed the implementatio

Re: [whatwg] [url] Feedback from TPAC

2014-11-04 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 3:55 PM, David Singer wrote: > I am pretty puzzled why the base URL composed with > the URL results not in > > stuff://www.app.com/a/b/banana > > but > > stuff:///banana > > Is this a bug or feature of the spec., or a bug in this implementation? Either of those results w

Re: [whatwg] [url] Feedback from TPAC

2014-11-04 Thread David Singer
I am pretty puzzled why the base URL composed with the URL results not in stuff://www.app.com/a/b/banana but stuff:///banana Is this a bug or feature of the spec., or a bug in this implementation? On Nov 4, 2014, at 14:32 , Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Sam

Re: [whatwg] [url] Feedback from TPAC

2014-11-04 Thread Sam Ruby
On 11/04/2014 09:32 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: To help foster discussion, I've made an alternate version of the live URL parser page, one that enables setting of the base URL: http://intertwingly.net/projects/pegurl/liveview2.html#foobar://test

Re: [whatwg] HTML video and IE, Safari, Firefox, Chrome

2014-11-04 Thread Martin Hoernig
Thank you Rob! I'm not sure what this means: Firefox fires the canplaythrough event after buffering is completed or halted instead of a bandwidth depending solution Do you mean that even when the data is arriving at a very high rate, we don't fire canplaythrough until all the data is downl

Re: [whatwg] Modifying the URL inside beforeunload event

2014-11-04 Thread cowwoc
On 04/11/2014 9:38 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 3:34 PM, cowwoc wrote: I'm relatively new to this mailing list. How do proposals make their way to action items here? I recommend studying https://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/FAQ In this particular case Ian will get back to you.

Re: [whatwg] Modifying the URL inside beforeunload event

2014-11-04 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 3:34 PM, cowwoc wrote: > I'm relatively new to this mailing list. How do proposals make their way to > action items here? I recommend studying https://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/FAQ In this particular case Ian will get back to you. -- https://annevankesteren.nl/

Re: [whatwg] Modifying the URL inside beforeunload event

2014-11-04 Thread cowwoc
Hi Michal, I'm relatively new to this mailing list. How do proposals make their way to action items here? Thanks, Gili On 02/11/2014 4:53 PM, Michal Zalewski wrote: It's probably OK to replace the URL of the previous page if it otherwise doesn't interfere with the ongoing navigation. The old

Re: [whatwg] [url] Feedback from TPAC

2014-11-04 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > To help foster discussion, I've made an alternate version of the live URL > parser page, one that enables setting of the base URL: > > http://intertwingly.net/projects/pegurl/liveview2.html#foobar://test/x > > Of course, if there are any bugs in th

Re: [whatwg] [url] Feedback from TPAC

2014-11-04 Thread Sam Ruby
On 11/03/2014 10:32 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 4:19 PM, David Singer wrote: The readability is much better (I am not a fan of the current trend of writing specifications in pseudo-basic, which makes life easier for implementers and terrible for anyone else, including

Re: [whatwg] HTML video and IE, Safari, Firefox, Chrome

2014-11-04 Thread Martin Hoernig
Thank you! We are interested in contributing and consider a integration, but we cannot communicate a timeframe for now (the next paper has to be published within the coming weeks...). On 2014-11-03 19:49, Domenic Denicola wrote: Impressive research, Martin! Would you and your team be willing t