Re: [whatwg] HTML6 proposal for single-page apps without Javascript

2015-04-05 Thread Bobby Mozumder
That sort of thing. Some languages, like Python, were designed with usability testing, and any improvement in HTML should be done with that in mind. -bobby --- Bobby Mozumder Editor-in-Chief FutureClaw Magazine mozum...@futureclaw.com mailto:mozum...@futureclaw.com +1-240-745-5287

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 proposal for single-page apps without Javascript

2015-04-02 Thread Bobby Mozumder
On Apr 2, 2015, at 12:11 PM, Martin Janecke whatwg@prlbr.com wrote: On 02.04.15 04:59, Bobby Mozumder wrote: The best experience should be on by default, and you need a built-in MVC framework in HTML for that to happen. That's something you take for granted, but other people don't

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 proposal for single-page apps without Javascript

2015-04-02 Thread Bobby Mozumder
never saw any examples how your MVC would look like. Would you care to show how something like http://backbonejs.org/docs/todos.html would look if done your way? I have examples in the original message, as well as in: http:///www.github.com/mozumder/HTML6 -bobby --- Bobby Mozumder Editor

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 proposal for single-page apps without Javascript

2015-04-02 Thread Bobby Mozumder
where this proposal would be a bad idea. You have any ideas on that? Polyfills aren’t going to cover all possible scenarios, either, since they’re going to be limited by test coverage. -bobby --- Bobby Mozumder Editor-in-Chief FutureClaw Magazine mozum...@futureclaw.com mailto:mozum

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 proposal for single-page apps without Javascript

2015-04-02 Thread Bobby Mozumder
this proposal has gone viral outside of this list. -bobby --- Bobby Mozumder Editor-in-Chief FutureClaw Magazine mozum...@futureclaw.com mailto:mozum...@futureclaw.com +1-240-745-5287 www.futureclaw.com http://www.futureclaw.com/ twitter.com/futureclaw https://www.twitter.com/futureclaw www.linkedin.com

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 proposal for single-page apps without Javascript

2015-04-02 Thread Bobby Mozumder
them. Where is the polyfill for CSS Exclusions, for example? -bobby --- Bobby Mozumder Editor-in-Chief FutureClaw Magazine mozum...@futureclaw.com mailto:mozum...@futureclaw.com +1-240-745-5287 www.futureclaw.com http://www.futureclaw.com/ twitter.com/futureclaw https://www.twitter.com/futureclaw

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 proposal for single-page apps without Javascript

2015-04-01 Thread Bobby Mozumder
On Mar 31, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Joshua Cranmer pidgeo...@verizon.net wrote: On 3/30/2015 10:02 PM, Bobby Mozumder wrote: One thing I’m interested in is to see more technical discussions around this idea. Like, very specific issues that show a design or concept flaw. It’s only been

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 proposal for single-page apps without Javascript

2015-03-30 Thread Bobby Mozumder
there, there are numerous more issues. If you can, list them, preferably in the Github so I can track the issues. -bobby --- Bobby Mozumder Editor-in-Chief FutureClaw Magazine mozum...@futureclaw.com mailto:mozum...@futureclaw.com +1-240-745-5287 www.futureclaw.com http://www.futureclaw.com/ twitter.com

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 proposal for single-page apps without Javascript

2015-03-30 Thread Bobby Mozumder
to assume that JS is a fundamental part of the web. The web is optimized for hypertext document processing, and most people use it to read content online. This proposal fixes a remaining issue with that. -bobby --- Bobby Mozumder Editor-in-Chief FutureClaw Magazine mozum...@futureclaw.com mailto:mozum

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 proposal for single-page apps without Javascript

2015-03-29 Thread Bobby Mozumder
. This will save everyone time. --- Bobby Mozumder Editor-in-Chief FutureClaw Magazine mozum...@futureclaw.com mailto:mozum...@futureclaw.com +1-240-745-5287 www.futureclaw.com http://www.futureclaw.com/ twitter.com/futureclaw https://www.twitter.com/futureclaw www.linkedin.com/in/mozumder http

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 single-page apps without Javascript proposal now on Github

2015-03-26 Thread Bobby Mozumder
this scenario, at the very least. -bobby --- Bobby Mozumder Editor-in-Chief FutureClaw Magazine mozum...@futureclaw.com +1-240-745-5287 www.futureclaw.com twitter.com/futureclaw www.linkedin.com/in/mozumder

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 single-page apps without Javascript proposal now on Github

2015-03-25 Thread Bobby Mozumder
syntax to get/set data. As we build on it, there would be an ORM that we could standardize so that clients could use this SQL syntax. This basically somewhat standardizes the syntax for structured remote API data access. -bobby --- Bobby Mozumder Editor-in-Chief FutureClaw Magazine mozum

[whatwg] HTML6 single-page apps without Javascript proposal now on Github

2015-03-24 Thread Bobby Mozumder
implementation differences between them. Isn’t that enough to cause HTML to be updated to fit this MVC design pattern? It’s a basic issue in the design of the web. -bobby --- Bobby Mozumder Editor-in-Chief FutureClaw Magazine mozum...@futureclaw.com mailto:mozum...@futureclaw.com +1-240-745-5287

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 single-page apps without Javascript proposal now on Github

2015-03-24 Thread Bobby Mozumder
#further-uses Is that OK? Any other options? -bobby --- Bobby Mozumder Editor-in-Chief FutureClaw Magazine mozum...@futureclaw.com mailto:mozum...@futureclaw.com +1-240-745-5287 www.futureclaw.com http://www.futureclaw.com/ twitter.com/futureclaw https://www.twitter.com/futureclaw www.linkedin.com

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 single-page apps without Javascript proposal now on Github

2015-03-24 Thread Bobby Mozumder
in the HREF property, like always. This proposal should be backwards compatible on older browsers. If it isn’t, let me know. -bobby --- Bobby Mozumder Editor-in-Chief FutureClaw Magazine mozum...@futureclaw.com mailto:mozum...@futureclaw.com +1-240-745-5287 www.futureclaw.com http

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 single-page apps without Javascript proposal now on Github

2015-03-24 Thread Bobby Mozumder
that? -bobby --- Bobby Mozumder Editor-in-Chief FutureClaw Magazine mozum...@futureclaw.com +1-240-745-5287 www.futureclaw.com twitter.com/futureclaw www.linkedin.com/in/mozumder

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 single-page apps without Javascript proposal now on Github

2015-03-24 Thread Bobby Mozumder
, when was the last time you actually wrote a static HTML file? Does anyone do that? For every web site, people actually write templates, not HTML code. This proposal standardizes on the idea of using HTML for templates. -bobby --- Bobby Mozumder Editor-in-Chief FutureClaw Magazine mozum

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 proposal for single-page apps without Javascript

2015-03-23 Thread Bobby Mozumder
that they like. Editors might, but readers have no vested interest in click-bait. -bobby --- Bobby Mozumder Editor-in-Chief FutureClaw Magazine mozum...@futureclaw.com mailto:mozum...@futureclaw.com +1-240-745-5287 www.futureclaw.com http://www.futureclaw.com/ twitter.com/futureclaw https

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 proposal for single-page apps without Javascript

2015-03-23 Thread Bobby Mozumder
to use them. And besides, there’s still the problem of having to download huge power inefficient Javascript libraries. -bobby --- Bobby Mozumder Editor-in-Chief FutureClaw Magazine mozum...@futureclaw.com mailto:mozum...@futureclaw.com +1-240-745-5287 www.futureclaw.com http://www.futureclaw.com

[whatwg] HTML6 proposal for single-page apps without Javascript pt.3

2015-03-23 Thread Bobby Mozumder
accesses. Anyways thanks for listening. If you vote for this, you can use me as a reference for 4 years of HTML6 experience. -bobby --- Bobby Mozumder Editor-in-Chief FutureClaw Magazine mozum...@futureclaw.com mailto:mozum...@futureclaw.com +1-240-745-5287 www.futureclaw.com http

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 proposal for single-page apps without Javascript

2015-03-23 Thread Bobby Mozumder
= document.registerElement(‘x-article', { // now register the element prototype: proto, extends: ‘article' }); ARTICLE is=“X-ARTICLE” model=“myArticleData // and then use a different name (And this is the simplified version...) -bobby --- Bobby

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 proposal for single-page apps without Javascript

2015-03-23 Thread Bobby Mozumder
components, they are *built into the browser.* You still have to write JS, and they’re not going to do that all the time. If they use Web components it will be in libraries. Web components are only going to be created for extremely complex widgets, not for H1, ARTICLE, etc.. -bobby --- Bobby

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 proposal for single-page apps without Javascript

2015-03-23 Thread Bobby Mozumder
now, where everybody defines expected behavior of elements and create a catalog of components that anyone can import. We call that the web browser and that’s why we’re here. =^D -bobby --- Bobby Mozumder Editor-in-Chief FutureClaw Magazine mozum...@futureclaw.com mailto:mozum...@futureclaw.com

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 proposal for single-page apps without Javascript

2015-03-23 Thread Bobby Mozumder
, retweets, upvotes, etc.. it looks like a lot of people want a solution like this. I don’t know how it happened but I believe this represents peoples wide dissatisfaction with having to use Javascript frameworks. -bobby --- Bobby Mozumder Editor-in-Chief FutureClaw Magazine mozum

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 proposal for single-page apps without Javascript

2015-03-23 Thread Bobby Mozumder
? -bobby --- Bobby Mozumder Editor-in-Chief FutureClaw Magazine mozum...@futureclaw.com mailto:mozum...@futureclaw.com +1-240-745-5287 www.futureclaw.com http://www.futureclaw.com/ twitter.com/futureclaw https://www.twitter.com/futureclaw www.linkedin.com/in/mozumder http://www.linkedin.com/in/mozumder

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 proposal for single-page apps without Javascript

2015-03-23 Thread Bobby Mozumder
(convert the Markdown model data into HTML, or load API data at a scroll point”) -bobby --- Bobby Mozumder Editor-in-Chief FutureClaw Magazine mozum...@futureclaw.com mailto:mozum...@futureclaw.com +1-240-745-5287 www.futureclaw.com http://www.futureclaw.com/ twitter.com/futureclaw https

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 proposal for single-page apps without Javascript pt.2

2015-03-22 Thread Bobby Mozumder
and the message already went through on w3.org. thank you! -bobby --- Bobby Mozumder Editor-in-Chief FutureClaw Magazine mozum...@futureclaw.com mailto:mozum...@futureclaw.com +1-240-745-5287 www.futureclaw.com http://www.futureclaw.com/ twitter.com/futureclaw https://www.twitter.com/futureclaw

[whatwg] HTML6 proposal for single-page apps without Javascript

2015-03-20 Thread Bobby Mozumder
with 60fps speeds and should be as responsive as native apps. -bobby --- Bobby Mozumder Editor-in-Chief FutureClaw Magazine mozum...@futureclaw.com mailto:mozum...@futureclaw.com +1-240-745-5287 www.futureclaw.com http://www.futureclaw.com/ twitter.com/futureclaw https://www.twitter.com/futureclaw

Re: [whatwg] HTML6 proposal for single-page apps without Javascript

2015-03-20 Thread Bobby Mozumder
residing in the fixtures that can be dynamically reloaded without Javascript. --- Bobby Mozumder Editor-in-Chief FutureClaw Magazine mozum...@futureclaw.com mailto:mozum...@futureclaw.com +1-240-745-5287 www.futureclaw.com http://www.futureclaw.com/ twitter.com/futureclaw https://www.twitter.com