Re: [whatwg] on codecs in a 'video' tag.

2007-03-28 Thread Christian F.K. Schaller
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 16:57 +0900, Dave Singer wrote: > At 19:28 +0200 27/03/07, Christian F.K. Schaller wrote: > > > >That is a matter of perception. Flash player which is the de-facto > >standard at this point provides support on at least linux, windows and > >M

Re: [whatwg] on codecs in a 'video' tag.

2007-03-27 Thread Christian F.K. Schaller
On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 09:04 -0700, Dave Singer wrote: > At 13:26 +0200 27/03/07, Maik Merten wrote: > >It's good to know that Apple considers interoperability as something > >important. > > > >Of course in case of the iPod the highly proprietary DRM scheme is > >preventing true interoperability if

Re: [whatwg] Codecs (was Re: Apple Proposal for Timed Media Elements)

2007-03-26 Thread Christian F.K. Schaller
On Sat, 2007-03-24 at 11:31 -0700, Kevin Marks wrote: > > > On 3/23/07, Christian F.K. Schaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 08:12 -0700, Kevin Calhoun wrote: > > On Mar 23, 2007, at 2:56 AM, Maik Merten wrote: > > >

Re: [whatwg] Codecs (was Re: Apple Proposal for Timed Media Elements)

2007-03-23 Thread Christian F.K. Schaller
On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 08:12 -0700, Kevin Calhoun wrote: > On Mar 23, 2007, at 2:56 AM, Maik Merten wrote: > > > MPEG4 adoption to the web has been poor from my point of view. Today > > I'd > > guess the absolute king in marketshare is Flash video, then following > > Windows Media, then followed

Re: [whatwg] Codecs (was Re: Apple Proposal for Timed Media Elements)

2007-03-23 Thread Christian F.K. Schaller
ust prefer to not have > to feed a lawyer's pockets over this issue. > > Gareth > > On 23 Mar 2007, at 11:49, Christian F.K. Schaller wrote: > > > Hi Gareth, > > This is a strange way of looking at the issue. Once a patent is > > granted > > it is

Re: [whatwg] Codecs (was Re: Apple Proposal for Timed Media Elements)

2007-03-23 Thread Christian F.K. Schaller
; > [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_patents#In_Europe > [2]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ > Software_patents_under_the_European_Patent_Convention#Inventive_step_tes > t > > On 23 Mar 2007, at 10:02, Christian F.K. Schaller wrote: > > > It is an Urban Legend tha

Re: [whatwg] Codecs (was Re: Apple Proposal for Timed Media Elements)

2007-03-23 Thread Christian F.K. Schaller
On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 11:49 +0100, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: > * Christian F.K. Schaller wrote: > >All w3c standards are royalty free and there is no reason why this > >proposal should be different in that regard. And as HÃ¥kon Wium Lie > >pointed out in another email, the latest SVG

Re: [whatwg] Codecs (was Re: Apple Proposal for Timed Media Elements)

2007-03-23 Thread Christian F.K. Schaller
It is an Urban Legend that there are no software patents in the EU. True enough there is no 'EU' software patents, but a lot of member states do have them. I suggest going the MPEG LA's webpage and looking at the patent lists they have there for MPEG4. You will notice that a lot of the patents are

Re: [whatwg] Codecs (was Re: Apple Proposal for Timed Media Elements)

2007-03-23 Thread Christian F.K. Schaller
Hi Vladimir, Lets put any idea of using MPEG4 in the standard at rest right away. Unless someone has a brilliant idea for who the open source and freely distributable Firefox would avoid becoming non-distributable in large parts of the world, and still conform to the standard by including MPEG4 su

Re: [whatwg] Codecs (was Re: Apple Proposal for Timed Media Elements)

2007-03-22 Thread Christian F.K. Schaller
Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > ON RECOMMENDED OR MANDATED CODECS > > We think it is a mistake to require Ogg support, even as a SHOULD- > level requirement, for several reasons. > > - As mentioned above, some devices may have a much harder time > implementing Ogg than other codecs. Although a SHOUL