by reference to the CSS
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At this point I doubt we can really change how iframes work with session
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I haven't changed the HTML specification in response to the above. It
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others (e.g. MacOS, Windows) keep track of where files were obtained from
and give dire warnings before running apps from the Web.
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On Mon, 7 Nov 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote:
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
I'm studying some of the feedback raised over the past few months
regarding history.pushState() and related APIs, in particular in the
context of applying these changes to the spec
be a layering violation anyway.
On Wed, 9 Nov 2011, Simon Pieters wrote:
http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2006-August/007228.html
:-)
http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2008-May/014938.html
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in toplevel browsing contexts
:-).
Is there any reason you can't just put whatever styles you want into a
style element? It's not clear to me why you need to reference a global
style sheet rather than referencing or generating a style sheet
specifically for each case.
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
2011-06-15 3:26, Ian Hickson wrote:
Styling a whole document by having style sheets in the middle of the
document causes flickering (as the browser updates the styles), and is
hard to maintain. So we make this non-conforming, to help authors
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011, Gavin Kistner wrote:
Can you provide an example in script of when the found specs would
apply, and when the other specs would apply?
Hmm, good point. Now that we're using CORS explicitly, all of the stuff
about image
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012, Erik Arvidsson wrote:
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 13:54, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
Surely that would be better than having authors manage local regions
for tabindex, especially since the positioning depends on the CSS
level, not the HTML level, and thus trying
On Tue, 31 Jan 2012, Robert O'Callahan wrote:
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
Is there any reason you can't just put whatever styles you want into a
style element? It's not clear to me why you need to reference a
global style sheet rather than
On Mon, 7 Nov 2011, James Graham wrote:
There seems to be some interest in making all concrete interfaces in the
DOM constructible [...].
I haven't done this for HTML element interfaces. I think Element.create(),
as discussed in public-webapps, is a more scalable approach.
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to the WebRTC WG, I recommend raising
this there instead.
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are almost
always this way.
For such apps I would recommend using the appcache feature and structuring
the app so that it doesn't need to be fully cached before it'll work.
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mention this by whether consider it as a
parsing error or request the UA to default to the highest value (which
Presto and IE6 seem to do but not using the same value).
I would recommend ignoring the attribute entirely rather than using an
arbitrarily high value, personally.
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Should not The spec require that compliant browsers provide an easy way to
view cached files when the user is off line?
This is a UI issue, so it's really up to the browsers. I recommend
approaching them directly with this request.
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using canvas? (rich controls are
better doing this way, one has pixel perfect control, full browser
compatibility) like document viewer, rich listview/treeview control...
Generally speaking, canvas isn't intended for anything but the simplest of
interactive controls.
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transaction that took place in their
browser.
For this kind of topic I recommend approaching this mailing list:
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outlines to be created (as do h1-h6, but section allows you to do it
without having to renumber all your headings when moving stuff around).
But in general, the main purpose is easier authoring.
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limitations, anyway). The caching progress can be easily
reported to the user (either by the UA or the page), so the user can know
that they should leave the tab open while it does the update, and yet the
page is usable in the meantime.
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On Fri, 27 Jan 2012, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
2012-01-27 21:33, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
New elements likenav andfooter have the problem that some
existing user agents don't recognize them, even for the purposes of
styling.
This is only
.
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011, Adam Barth wrote:
Sorry about that. This is filed as
https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71053. I've got some time
scheduled to look at this later in the week.
I've fixed the spec accordingly.
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On Fri, 23 Sep 2011, Ojan Vafai wrote:
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
If they're focusable at all, I don't see why they wouldn't be
autofocusable. Is there a use case for special-casing read-only ones?
Right. The question is whether read-only/disabled
On Sun, 25 Sep 2011, Thomas Broyer wrote:
Is there really no equivalent to the beforeunload event for the History
API? Has it been discussed? or is this an oversight?
Does the pagehide event do what you mean?
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=Some help text/a
or
input type=text data-tooltip=Some help text /
Would you agree that this is the better option?
If what you want is a tooltip, then the title= attribute is probably
your best bet. No need for any scripting.
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Rafal is trying to do, though, so I
haven't currently changed the spec for this.
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at styles fail depending on
network performance.
Note that this is not conforming. The spec does not currently define any
such behaviour.
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).
For details on the process, please see the FAQ:
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and audio already had requirements to this effect.
iframe outside a document doesn't initiate a load, so it's case is
different.
Let me know if I missed anything.
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2011, Martijn wrote:
On Jan 15, 2008 8:51 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Thu, 17 May 2007, Martijn wrote:
Is how to render shadows defined here?
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#shadows0
So with that piece of text it is clear how to render
h2My subsection/h2
/section
The rank concept is used to figure out the relative level of the headings
in the document as a whole, it's not the end of the story. You can't just
ignore the outline section, that's the section that says what the outlines
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. The last paragraph of the section on the pattern attribute links
twice to semantics.html#the-title-element. Should it not link to
elements.html#the-title-attribute?
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with filtering behaviour.)
On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Jeff Muizelaar wrote:
On 2011-08-08, at 4:58 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
A bit lower down in the same section, the spec says: When the
filtering algorithm requires a pixel value from outside the original
image data, it must instead use the value from
by non-same-origin
pages anyway?
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I don't really understand the use case here. Could you elaborate, ideally
with an example showing the alternative text you had in mind?
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doesn't make sense for editable content, there's no Drop event if the
DragOver isn't canceled and then the default behavior of dragdrop
doesn't work.
Why would there be no 'drop' event?
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varying definition of whitespace rather than
a small set, making HTML parsing depend on non-ASCII values, or, just
referencing the JS spec directly. For the reasons described above, I have
not done either at this time.
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be technically valid to use data- prefixes, it
doesn't seem to fit the intention.
Is the exhibit JavaScript library not being delivered with the page?
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In general this is a UA UI issue so I don't want to overconstrain this. If
there's a use case for UIs that aren't allowed in the spec as it stands,
I'm happy to loosen it further, let me know.
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, without a prefix, which accomplishes the same thing?).
Because then it would limit the space within which the language itself can
be extended in the future.
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approaching high-profile sites that do this and asking them whether
they're interested in doing it in a different way.
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be interested in [1]
[1] http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/WebNotifications/
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2011, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
25.07.2011 22:02, Ian Hickson wrote:
So what markup should we use for E = mc�, given that by the
applicable standards, E, M, and c should appear in italics and the
other characters as normal (upright)?
It sounds like you want to use
efforts here. If this is
an area of interest, I encourage you to study the specification to see if
the current requirements are satisfactory.
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On Sat, 30 Jul 2011, Cameron McCormack wrote:
Jumping in the middle of this thread to pick up on one aspect...
On 28/07/11 6:15 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
Are we really concerned about objects stringifying to [Object Foo]?
It seems that the usefulness of such stringification is far
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
16.07.2011 00:01, Ian Hickson wrote:
Much discussion on this topic happened when we started on this work in
2004 and 2005, I highly recommend perusing the archives around that
time.
Authors and implementors will need to be able
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
On 6/13/11 8:09 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
It's possible to switch these relevant checks to walk the
ownerDocument chain instead, say. Then we need to audit all the
callsites to make sure this makes sense at them and figure out what
to do
converters out there. I recommend doing
a search for word to html in your favourite search engine.
HTH,
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concept is never set.
So um... when should it be set? Is it just the document's address but
with the change that the document's address is about:blank for
create*Document()-created documents?
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2011, Boris Zbarsky wrote [edited for context]:
On 12/15/11 3:10 PM, Ian Hickson wrote [edited for context]:
I might be open to changing the current spec text -- presumably to
just define wbr as follows, or something similar (though using
U+200B would probably affect text
seem like a good reason to require that.
Jonas is correct. Since there was no interop here I figured we might as
well go with what made sense.
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does not apply to the element could use clarification, though.
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011, Ian Hickson wrote:
It's a hook used here:
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/complete.html#common-input-element-attributes
I'll add a hyperlink or something to make it clearer.
Now done
done.
I made a change a few weeks ago to try to improve matters without going
too far, so now if you hover over the boxes you get an edit link.
Hopefully that helps a little...
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Lachlan Hunt wrote:
On 2011-06-15 07:55, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011, Lachlan Hunt wrote:
This should also only allow up to 3 digits representing
milliseconds. If there are 4 or more digits (microseconds or
beyond), the spec should state
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Lachlan Hunt wrote:
On 2011-06-15 07:55, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011, Lachlan Hunt wrote:
This should also only allow up to 3 digits representing
milliseconds. If there are 4 or more digits (microseconds
progress on this issue.
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Mounir Lamouri wrote:
On 06/04/2011 12:57 AM, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2011, Mounir Lamouri wrote:
According to a comment of Hixie in [1], this case has been handled by
the specs in 2004 but it doesn't seem to be any more and UA's have a
very different
cover to other browsers interested in the same
potential performance improvement.
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The current value of the selectionEnd attribute is not as the first
argument, but as the second argument, is it?
Indeed. This has been fixed. Thanks.
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2011, Markus Ernst wrote:
Am 14.06.2011 09:32 schrieb Ian Hickson:
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Markus Ernst wrote:
Instead of a new paragraph concept, there could also be a new
concept for inline (resp. Phrasing Content) lists. The concept is
actually not too new
?
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On Sat, 7 Jan 2012, Smylers wrote:
If it's something you'd find useful even in its incomplete state, I
can add an alternative style sheet
Yes, please.
Roger. I've added an alternative style sheet set that has a rule for .impl
sections for you. HTH.
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[] as
the type for MessageEvent.ports.
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On Tue, 5 Jul 2011, Robert O'Callahan wrote:
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Robert O'Callahan
rob...@ocallahan.orgwrote:
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Fri, 13 May 2011, Robert O'Callahan wrote:
Can you put a note in the spec that we're
merge those into one task
as well.
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add an alternative style sheet or make the ?style=highlight URL show the
annotations that are present, though. It wouldn't be something we'd
advertise but if it's useful for you I'm happy to keep it around.
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On Mon, 16 May 2011, Adam Shannon wrote:
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 18:39, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2011, Adam Shannon wrote:
I don't like having the only barrier between changing the default
search engine for a user's browser be a single dialog box. This list
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
On 12/14/11 8:05 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
it was with respect tonobr, which we now
define in terms of 'white-space'.
Maybe that needs to change?
How else would we define it?
Whether it's wbr or nobr that gets defined in terms that violate CSS
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
On 12/14/11 7:12 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
One could actually argue that the pages that exist that use _main and
_content actually work _better_ in current UAs with those values being
interpreted as browsing context names than they would if they were
.
http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/file-system/file-writer.html#idl-def-FileSaver
I agree that an API like FileSaver is the right way to do this. Using
input type=file wouldn't really fit well because that's more for
providing data for upload than providing a file for writing.
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Would other browser vendors be willing to change to only look atbase
href inhead?
Gecko used to implement that back when the spec said it.
This caused site compat issues. See
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=593807 (United checkin outside
the US
wouldn't have bothered if it
wasn't an extra argument.
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be allowed.
Well you'll have to pick a specific type when you actually receive the
drop, so it seems simpler to just list the supported types. Otherwise you
might find that actually you don't support any of the image/* types that
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On Fri, 13 May 2011, Simon Pieters wrote:
We're making this change in Opera (we'll ignore space characters in
atob).
I've updated the spec accordingly. Let me know if this causes any
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On Fri, 13 May 2011, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
On 5/13/11 4:46 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
The sum total of what the spec has to say on the matter is User
agents may support secondary browsing contexts, which are browsing
contexts that form part of the user agent's interface, apart from the
main
pages that aren't being maintained any more.
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anything normative at all; it just describes the meaning of the attribute.
The spec tries to be very explicit about stuff. You should never have to
read between the lines.
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if the current node is not a table model element. So I've
changed the spec at that point.
Please let me know if that doesn't fix the test case or causes any other
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the cost of changing, we should definitely consider it. At this
point thought it might be better to just stick with void.
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picture this as the bookmark being wrapped around the formatting element.
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to add a definition for act as if
along with the definition for using the rules for.
I've added a paragraph that mentions a definition for act as if. I
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pair as the last character?
Can you elaborate on what difficulty this would present?
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Ideally, it would be good to have the current protocol and content type
handlers and the Web Intent stuff all use a coherent and consistent API.
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On Sat, 9 Jul 2011, Philip Jägenstedt wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 01:19:02 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Sat, 9 Jul 2011, Philip Jägenstedt wrote:
Step 11 is If current has an itemprop attribute specified, add it
to results. but should be If current has one or more
the chance that the consuming
code will be updated.
Yeah. And authors would have to make sure the textContent is usable as
fallback, which isn't at all a given, IMHO.
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a itemprop=url href=http://smith.org/john;John
Smith/a
/span
/p
The microformats for this particular case is shorter still.
I haven't changed microdata for this; the current design is an intentional
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col, pointing to the tds that are part
of that column. It's more verbose, but it doesn't rely on special
HTML-only rules.
That's a possible workaround for now, true.
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Indeed.
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credentials or not. When credentials aren't sent, you can use the * form.
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of media type parameters? I
always thought the media type itself was what strict checking should be
done upon, but that its parameters were extension points, not points of
failure.
Fair enough. I've changed the spec to ignore parameters on
text/event-stream.
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for machine-readable data, data, as well as an
element specifically for time-related machine-readable data, time.
The old time element, with its rendering rules and DOM API, are gone.
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to follow
the aforementioned group.
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011, Mark Callow wrote:
On 26/07/2011 14:30, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 04:09:40 +0530, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
Another question is flash. As far as I have seen, there seems
to be no option to specify
haven't fully tested this yet so if you run into any problems, e.g. I
spam you every last edit fifteen times over, let me know.
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Things
happy to support such an effort
in whatever way I can.
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2011, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
On 11/21/11 3:26 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
What's needed is a way to notice when changes to a particular piece
happen. There isn't one.
Which pieces do you _not_ want to be notified of changes to?
Whatever doesn't affect code I maintain
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