is less than ideal. In reality, the example seems to correspond
to _normal_ expected use of details, so the name summary is
misleading. Perhaps control would be better, but as it's really a
special kind of control only, how about open?
The idea is to encourage people to give a summary.
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binding language, I don't think it makes sense to spend time trying to
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and create an API to mint URLs for it.
Right.
On Wed, 6 Jul 2011, Shwetank Dixit wrote:
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 19:32:49 +0530, Lachlan Hunt wrote:
On 2011-03-18 05:45, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, Jonathan Dixon wrote:
Further, it could be useful to provide a way to query the video
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011, Henri Sivonen wrote:
On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 22:33 +, Ian Hickson wrote:
The JSON algorithm now ends the crawl when it hits a loop, and
replaces the offending duplicate item with the string ERROR.
The RDF algorithm preserves the loops, since doing so is possible
On Thu, 7 Jul 2011, Eric Winkelman wrote:
On Thursday, June 02 Ian Hickson wrote:
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011, Eric Winkelman wrote:
For in-band metadata tracks, there is neither a standard way to
represent the type of metadata in the HTMLTrackElement interface nor
is there a standard way
if they
use different but equivalent names, for example. You should never have
multiple names with the same semantic.)
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
div itemscope itemtype=http://example.com/;
meta itemprop=kind content=A B
...
/div
How does
-watchers-whatwg.org
Interactive Web interface:
http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker
Subversion interface:
http://svn.whatwg.org/
These tools are listed at the top of the specification under Quick
links.
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it would be equivalent to the origin-driven-type
solution, but has the advantage of not complicating the model at all.
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On Tue, 28 Jun 2011, Lin Clark wrote:
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
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Would it make sense to use something like vocab here?
div itemscope vocab
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it, it is empty for EventSource's purposes.
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, Per-Erik Brodin wrote:
On 2011-06-20 21:59, Ian Hickson wrote:
According to the CORS specification, a request is not to be
terminated even when the resource sharing check fails. However, when
using CORS with EventSource I
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Per-Erik Brodin wrote:
On 2011-06-17 21:57, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jun 2011, ilya goberman wrote:
Can EventSource be enhanced to support cross-domain requests via
Access-Control-Allow-Origin header, just like it is already done for
XHR? See
http
HTMLElement is
that I didn't expect other vocabularies would appreciate it. My ideal
solution would be for all event handlers for all elements supported by a
browser to be supported on all Element, Node, and Window objects, but
that might be a bit far.
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2011, Mihai Parparita wrote:
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
Google Chrome 10 seems to fire popstate even if I open totally new
page. Firefox 4 seems to fire event only on going back/forward
How are you determining if Firefox fires
Sicking wrote:
We should probably consider adding the ability to specify if you want
the request to happen with or without credentials (and default to the
safe option which is without credentials).
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote:
2011/6/17 Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011, Mihai Parparita wrote:
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
Google Chrome 10 seems to fire popstate even if I open totally new
page. Firefox 4 seems to fire
credentials here?
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If it's not, can you elaborate on what exactly is confusing? I tried to
answer a question bent was asking but I am so familiar with the style that
the spec is written in that I found the answer straight away and didn't
see anything confusing, which doesn't help me make it better! :-)
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On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, Julien Chaffraix wrote:
the EventSource specification states the current content-type header
should match the string text/event-stream. However following some
bugs opened inside the WebKit project [1], we relaxed the content
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Dimitri Glazkov wrote:
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
XBL2 specifically gives the author control over this issue, because it
is indeed a problem in a widget scoped style scenario.
That's
http://dev.w3.org/2006/xbl2/Overview.html
on the server side. The spec should define in the value
sanitization algorithm for the date and time time state, to express the
UTC time-zone using a Z.
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is the root changing a problem?
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this
changed to advocate for it directly to the UA vendors who would need to
update their code. If the browsers change the spec will obviously follow.
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reluctant to try to summarise it.
Google Chrome 10 seems to fire popstate even if I open totally new page.
Firefox 4 seems to fire event only on going back/forward
How are you determining if Firefox fires the event? Are you sure you're
not just checking after Firefox has fired it?
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this change, right?
Thanks to Cameron's fantastic work, this is fixed now, so there should no
longer be a need for reading between the lines. Please let me know if it's
still ambiguous, though.
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/select
datalist
option value=foo
/datalist
work the same regarding the label.
They do. The label comes from the label= attribute if present, or else
the textContent. It's exactly the same.
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into consideration how we write: we use the colon as a
full stop pause, introduce the in-between element leaving a space, then
resume the paragraph leaving another space after the in-between element.
Indeed.
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Please help...
Thanking you in advance...
I don't know how helpful it would be, but http://developers.whatwg.org/
might be of interest. Beyond that, HTML tutorials of times gone by are as
good a place as any to start.
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote:
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
Furthermore, as I understand the above definitions, the spec does allow
to specify label and value in one step in a select element:
select
optionThis is value and label
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote:
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:46 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010, Mounir Lamouri wrote:
With the current specification, these two elements will not have the
same value:
input value=foo#13;bar type='hidden'
input type
an exception when they do not
apply [2] and do nothing instead?
[2] Actually, that's another issue but I wonder why we raise an
exception...
What is the use case here?
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you're supposed to do it from a File object.
http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/FileAPI/#FileReader-interface
Since you have a data: URL, you could also just decode the data: URL
yourself. It contains all the data.
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above, I
would encourage you to engage with the working group directly.
I do agree that it'd be nice if the CSS specs could be rewritten in the
style we've used for HTML, though, but that would be a huge amount of work
and I don't know anyone who has the bandwidth to do it.
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agnostic but the equivalent DOM code is not.
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, which is where discussion of the File API specs more usually
takes place.
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in modern user agent strings is not about
telling the server or client anything useful about the browser, it's
about making badly written websites work correctly.
Yup, that's pretty much it.
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that the remaining digits should be truncated.
Why?
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On Fri, 4 Mar 2011, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
On 3/4/11 7:08 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
Could you elaborate on the security reasons?
The primary one is that there there are Gecko-internal security settings
that are supposed to apply to this browsing context and all descendant
browsing contexts
sites to break
when it is implemented, I both encourage user agent vendors to implement
it quickly, and urge everyone else to not speak of it loudly until
browsers have shipped with support for this attribute.
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not seen a for attribute on a script element. Is there any
documentation on what it does?)
It doesn't do anything useful per spec. It's an old IEism.
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something.
See also this entry in the FAQ:
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card/tab/window can display a message to the user.
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011, James Graham wrote:
See [1] for the current state-of-play in giving access to system
notification mechanisms.
[1] http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/WebNotifications/publish/Notifications.html
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to be dismissed without being read, so
browser vendors are shying away from this kind of UI.
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On Tue, 1 Mar 2011, WeBMartians wrote:
On 2011-02-28 19:42, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010, Biju wrote:
2. if we are still keeping them, can we disable them in
onbeforeunload/onunload[/onhide] etc. Many sites add extra dialogs
in those events
trouble
getting implemented in the first place without giving implementors a
reason to avoid doing it at all.
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a more like
electronic brochures, we want them to have headers footers,
navigational elements, ordered and unordered lists. And all those
things are web content, not web body. That's my point.
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On Tue, 1 Mar 2011, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
On 3/1/11 5:29 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
I am still faced with the fact that there is no way to clear the
HTTP authentication credentials cache.
To some extent that's up to the browser. It logs you in, it can offer
the ability to log you
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011, Michael Nordman wrote:
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, Michael Nordman wrote:
AppCache feature request: An https manifest should be able to list
resources from other https origins.
I've got some app
them. Any opinions one way or the other?
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On Fri, 4 Feb 2011, Glenn Maynard wrote:
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
All workers should run soon, not maybe in the future. Not running a
worker should be an unusual circumstance. Errors that occur in unusual
circumstances aren't errors that authors
and offline events also.
Also add ononline and onoffline event handlers to workers.
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this should now be ok. Let me know if
it's still problematic.
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2011, Daniel Cheng wrote:
For consistency with other lists of things (such as Files), would it
make sense to rename DataTransferItems to DataTransferItemList? It makes
it easier to distinguish from DataTransferItem as welll.
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On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Mikko Rantalainen wrote:
2011-01-08 00:06 EEST: Ian Hickson:
The basic idea behind this design is that type=radio seems to have been
designed to keep each control as independent as possible -- before we
started fiddling with it in WF2, the only way type=radio controls
as a should. I haven't specced what should happen with IME since, as
mentioned above, it seems like this is just a UI issue that doesn't affect
interop (you can't detect the IME state unlike the selection state, for
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2011, Henri Sivonen wrote:
On Feb 2, 2011, at 03:07, Ian Hickson wrote:
I suppose we could make it so that scripts get neutered when the document
that they were first associated with gets unloaded. Would that work?
We did something different.
Proposal #1:
Proposal
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
On 2/9/11 10:12 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Mon, 15 Nov 2010, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
On 11/15/10 8:15 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
Gecko's currently-intended behavior is to do what [the spec]
describes in all cases except:
iframe src
even though I'm not asking for a spec
change (at least not yet).
Wow. That difference is absurd.
Since Gecko and WebKit both do what the spec says now, I've left the spec
as is. I don't even know where I'd begin in terms of doing what IE does
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behaviour if they really want it by just
calling .click() on the element they want to have activated when the
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any specification changes, so I have
not explicitly replied to them. If you would like a specific reply to a
particular comment, please let me know (either on the list of privately)
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On Wed, 1 Jun 2011, Simon Pieters wrote:
+!-- attribute spanFunction/span span
title=handler-WebSocket-onerroronerror/span;
+-- attribute spanFunction/span span
Why is onerror commented out?
Not much point having it if nothing can fire an 'error' event.
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On Thu, 26 May 2011, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
On 5/26/11 1:10 AM, Ian Hickson wrote:
It's presumably a whole heck of a lot more complex than brack matching:
alert('fail');
function test () {
// ...megabytes of perfectly fine code...
a b;
}
...had better
On Thu, 26 May 2011, Stewart Brodie wrote:
Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Tue, 24 May 2011, Stewart Brodie wrote:
Do getters need to be called to obtain a value which can be stored
(after being cloned itself) in the result?
I'm not sure I follow the question. Can you
which can be stored
(after being cloned itself) in the result?
I'm not sure I follow the question. Can you elaborate?
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On Thu, 19 May 2011, Chris Double wrote:
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
This is only a first draft, I'm not sure it's perfect. In particular,
right now cross-origin media is not allowed at all without this
attribute (this is not a new change, but I'm
without a date picker. Such
implementation could use the size attribute.
Unless such a UA exists, I'd rather not spend too much time worrying about
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something interoperable implemented in all the
relevant user agents (typically browsers, validators, or editors).
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Things that are impossible just take
clutter layout
with yet another begging button. All the like-me, digg-me
tweet-me buttons are awful enough ;)
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abused. (Drag and drop browser controls over
tons of sites asking for permission to be the default.)
I agree. Note that the spec doesn't say there should be a dialog box at
all; it's left entirely up to the UAs.
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/the-end.html#scripts-that-modify-the-page-as-it-is-being-parsed
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/complete/the-end.html#the-execution-of-scripts-that-are-moving-across-multiple-documents
need updating
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to be there for web
compatibility?
For consistency, all the event handler attributes on HTMLDocument and
HTMLElement are the same now.
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2011, Christoph Päper wrote:
Ian Hickson (2010-12-07):
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010, Christoph Päper wrote:
However, I believe the underlying problem is simply that “line break”
is (too) often used and understood as a synonym for “new line”, at
least by non-native speakers
On Fri, 11 Feb 2011, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
On 2/11/11, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
We do spec rel=sidebar, which in theory lets make a link open in an
auxiliary browsing context, so it would make some sense to have a
feature to target back, if there is a browser that lets you use
typically based on what the main use case was for, but there's nothing to
stop you from using it for other things. For example, the Application
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On Fri, 13 May 2011, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
On 5/13/11 3:45 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
If the links open by default in the main content area, there's no need to
have an explicit way to do this, I guess. So I haven't added a term for
this.
Note that the by default open in the main content area
, basically.
So if we limit it just to user-dirty that solves the problems.
I've updated the spec accordingly.
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Firefox now supports this, I've removed support for it from the
spec. (It's just commented out for now; we can put it back if someone
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being blacklisted, instead of having the browser
provide that message, vs how much risk is the user taking by us exposing
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where a UnsizedBlob would make
sense, I'm tempted to say that we should use an asynchronous callback
here.
That's what I've gone with.
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the one Kenneth and yourself
proposed earlier, namely, return null in step 2 if there's a permanent
failure (unsupported driver, no hardware, etc), and return a context that
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that it is not a compatibility
problem), and then updating the spec accordingly.
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On Thu, 12 May 2011, Aryeh Gregor wrote:
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 1:58 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
This is something that is rife with serious security concerns:
exposing history, the potential for cross-origin data leakage,
introspecting spelling-checker user dictionaries
On Fri, 11 Feb 2011, Glenn Maynard wrote:
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Wed, 29 Dec 2010, Glenn Maynard wrote:
I hit this problem in a UI I worked on. It rendered into a canvas
the size of the window, which can be zoomed and scrolled around
On Fri, 13 May 2011, Glenn Maynard wrote:
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
No, ImageData exposes the underlying data, not the data in CSS pixels.
I know. That's what I was responding to: having different backing store
dimensions and dimensions exposed
, 12 May 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote:
(For what it's worth, I really wish we would do this for W3C bug 11960)
Done.
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Things that are impossible just
On Fri, 13 May 2011, Glenn Maynard wrote:
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
It's pretty much the entire point of that API. That's why it has
separate height/width information than the canvas. It has to be that
way because there's no guarantee that CSS
recommendation for people who care about this is to get browser vendors to
make this change and see if it causes compatibility problems. If it
doesn't, we can update the spec. Please feel free to cc me on the relevant
bugs if you would like my help in convincing browser vendors to try this. :-)
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if there are multiple equally
good ways to design a solution for a problem faced by the Web, we should
pick the solutions that work for the most other environments as well, but
that's not as strong a commitment as I think you are describing above.
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not provide, despite its intent.
It's not intended for clipping.
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Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'
to use
object rather than try to overload canvas to do double-duty as both a
direct-mode graphics API and an image embedding feature. If changes are
needed for object, we can make those. I'm not sure any are, though.
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is willing to implement, meaning one that doesn't involve laundry
lists of things to test for or risk a whack-a-mole race, then I'd be happy
to specify it.
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