Re: [whatwg] Is now an official HTML5 element?

2013-02-14 Thread Ian Yang
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: > On Thu, 14 Feb 2013, Ian Yang wrote: > > > > There is one thing which makes me confused. You mentioned the is > > "mainly serves as a styling hook." If what we need is just a styling > > hook, w

Re: [whatwg] Is now an official HTML5 element?

2013-02-13 Thread Ian Yang
role "main". Please correct me if I'm wrong. Kind Regards, Ian Yang

Re: [whatwg] Is now an official HTML5 element?

2013-02-13 Thread Ian Yang
W3C works. Note that in my personal opinion the Wikipedia page about > W3C is outdated and very poor quality information. > > cheers > > Chaals > > Hi Charles, Thank you for providing resources. I will try to determine what topic belongs to which group in the future. Kind Regards

Re: [whatwg] Is now an official HTML5 element?

2013-02-13 Thread Ian Yang
t has clearly defined the relationship between and . Any opinion will be appreciated. Thanks. Kind Regards, Ian Yang

Re: [whatwg] Is now an official HTML5 element?

2013-02-13 Thread Ian Yang
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:06 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: > On Wed, 13 Feb 2013, Ian Yang wrote: > > > > I saw the SitePoint article "Introducing the New HTML5 > > Element<http://www.sitepoint.com/html5-main-element/>" yesterday. Does > > that mean elem

Re: [whatwg] Is now an official HTML5 element?

2013-02-13 Thread Ian Yang
/wiki/FAQ#What_is_the_WHATWG.3F > > Best regards > > > 2013/2/14 Ian Yang > >> Hi Steve, >> >> Thanks. And sorry, but til now I still don't understand the differences >> between whatwg and html wg. Could you please explain? >> >> Regards, >> Ian &

Re: [whatwg] Is now an official HTML5 element?

2013-02-13 Thread Ian Yang
t; SteveF > > > Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 18:31:32 +0800 > > From: Ian Yang > > To: whatwg > > Subject: [whatwg] Is now an official HTML5 element? > > Message-ID: > > > h1w0hRY61+LG=cebo-zuwy...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charse

[whatwg] Is now an official HTML5 element?

2013-02-13 Thread Ian Yang
element is not a sectioning element. That means, in document outline, main content will form another tree structure instead of appearing under the original website tree structure. Can we have somebody advise on this? Is there a special consideration to not making a sectioning element? Sincerely, Ian Yang

Re: [whatwg] use cases for untitled article and section elements

2013-01-15 Thread Ian Yang
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: > 2013-01-15 14:15, Ian Yang wrote: > > > The one came into my mind is blog comments, which are often > >> coded using untitled s. But personally I think that is wrong >> because every sectioning element should h

Re: [whatwg] use cases for untitled article and section elements

2013-01-15 Thread Ian Yang
one came into my mind is blog comments, which are often coded using untitled s. But personally I think that is wrong because every sectioning element should have a heading. Regards, Ian Yang

Re: [whatwg] A plea to Hixie to adopt , and main element parsing behaviour

2012-12-22 Thread Ian Yang
Hi Steve, Thanks for the info. I had sent it to public-html-comme...@w3.org and had added new info to Bugzilla. Regards, Ian Yang On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Steve Faulkner wrote: > Hi Ian, > in regards to your post about how is defined: > > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/P

Re: [whatwg] A plea to Hixie to adopt , and main element parsing behaviour

2012-12-21 Thread Ian Yang
of a blog post. Any suggestion or advise will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Regards, Ian Yang

Re: [whatwg] Use of article to identify the main content of a web page

2012-11-19 Thread Ian Yang
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 2:08 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: > On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Ian Yang wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 8:01 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: > > > On Thu, 15 Nov 2012, Ian Yang wrote: > > > > > > > > That's a good idea. We really need a

Re: [whatwg] Use of article to identify the main content of a web page (was Re: A plea to Hixie to adopt )

2012-11-19 Thread Ian Yang
/0221.html > Thanks Steve for explanation. Could you please suggest an appropriate element for the wrapper of the content of a blog post? Regards, Ian Yang

Re: [whatwg] A plea to Hixie to adopt

2012-11-18 Thread Ian Yang
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 8:01 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Nov 2012, Ian Yang wrote: > > > > That's a good idea. We really need an element to wrap all the s, > > s, s, s, s ... etc of a blog post. > > That's called . > Thanks Hickson. Actua

Re: [whatwg] A plea to Hixie to adopt

2012-11-15 Thread Ian Yang
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Ian Yang wrote: > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Tim Leverett wrote: > >> Personally, I'd rather see be more about marking up content in >> general, such as in this example which is invalid given the curre

Re: [whatwg] A plea to Hixie to adopt

2012-11-15 Thread Ian Yang
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Tim Leverett wrote: > Personally, I'd rather see be more about marking up content in > general, such as in this example which is invalid given the current state > of the spec: > > > > > > > > > > > > ...although this would probably fit bett

Re: [whatwg] maincontent element spec updated and supporting data provided

2012-10-17 Thread Ian Yang
Hi Steve, Thanks for your work, too :) Regards, Ian On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Steve Faulkner wrote: > Hi Ian, > > Thanks for the detailed example, your reasoning is clear now and that > gives me something to work with, and thanks for filing a bug! > > will respond on bug. > > regards > S

Re: [whatwg] maincontent element spec updated and supporting data provided

2012-10-17 Thread Ian Yang
at the same level in document outline. A bug report for this issue has been filed on bugzilla. Kind Regards, Ian Yang

Re: [whatwg] maincontent element spec updated and supporting data provided

2012-10-16 Thread Ian Yang
make the main content element a sectioning element, too? Kind Regards, Ian Yang On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Steve Faulkner wrote: > Hi all, > > I have updated the spec [1] and would appreciate any feedback > (including, but not limited to implementers). > > In the process

Re: [whatwg] Elements feedback

2012-09-27 Thread Ian Yang
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 2:27 AM, Ian Hickson wrote > On Mon, 16 Jul 2012, Ian Yang wrote: > > > > But your opinion does remind me of the element. That element is > > a perfect example of introducing and using an element simply for its > > rendering. Unlike and , it&

Re: [whatwg] "content" element, which we need in our documents

2012-09-09 Thread Ian Yang
an become more clearer if the main content element is a sectioning element. Please refer to a previous topic "Document outline and the wrapper of the main content" ( http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ig/2012JulSep/0157.html ) Kind Regards, Ian Yang On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 4

Re: [whatwg] Suggest making and valid in

2012-07-31 Thread Ian Yang
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Ian Yang wrote: > > > Like above examples, the following is not well organized, and it's >> > also a pain to read it: >> > >> > >> > Lorem Ipsum >> > Sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. >

Re: [whatwg] Suggest making and valid in

2012-07-31 Thread Ian Yang
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:56 AM, Leif Halvard Silli < xn--mlform-...@xn--mlform-iua.no> wrote: > Ian Yang on Thu, 19 Jul 2012 15:04:48 +0800, wrote: > > >> From previous discussions, some people had suggested possible markup for > >> "life cycle" type

Re: [whatwg] Suggest making and valid in

2012-07-19 Thread Ian Yang
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 2:02 AM, Alex Bishop wrote: > On 19/07/2012 08:04, Ian Yang wrote: > >> Since the *optional *use of in could solve many problems, may we >> >> have being valid in ? >> > > Probably not, as it has similar drawbacks as the proposed e

Re: [whatwg] Suggest making and valid in

2012-07-19 Thread Ian Yang
be hard to style them. Since the *optional *use of in could solve many problems, may we have being valid in ? Sincerely, Ian Yang

Re: [whatwg] Suggest making and valid in

2012-07-16 Thread Ian Yang
2012/7/16 Jukka K. Korpela > 2012-07-16 5:36, Ian Yang wrote: > >> Imo, means the order of the items is unimportant, not browsers can >> render the items in any order. >> > > But if the order is unimportant, there still _is_ an order. Being > unordered would be

Re: [whatwg] Suggest making and valid in

2012-07-16 Thread Ian Yang
2012/7/16 Ian Hickson > On Sat, 14 Jul 2012, Ian Yang wrote: > > Recently I was involved in a project. One of its pages has a special > > content which is like a "life cycle". There are several stages in the > > cycle, each stage has a term followed by some text

Re: [whatwg] Suggest making and valid in

2012-07-15 Thread Ian Yang
2012/7/16 Leif H Silli > Sat, 14 Jul 2012 23:53:32 +0800, from Ian Yang > >> Okay, it seems that one of the ideas I mentioned in my original email >> needs to be revamped. >> > >> I was saying that using general heading () and paragraph () loses >&g

Re: [whatwg] Suggest making and valid in

2012-07-15 Thread Ian Yang
2012/7/16 Jukka K. Korpela > 2012-07-15 17:40, Ian Yang wrote: > > Throughout the article, I saw it mentioned "bullets" and "numbers" > > frequently. However, that's just browsers' default rendering of and > > . > > It's the only

Re: [whatwg] Suggest making and valid in

2012-07-15 Thread Ian Yang
2012/7/15 Jukka K. Korpela > 2012-07-14 18:51, Ian Yang wrote: > > If is no more and no less ordered than , >> what's the purpose of its introduction? >> > > The real purposes, in the dawn of HTML, were that and correspond > to numbered and bulleted lists

Re: [whatwg] Suggest making and valid in

2012-07-14 Thread Ian Yang
When contents of a definition list are unordered, we could use: And when contents of a definition list are ordered, we could use: Sincerely, Ian Yang

Re: [whatwg] Suggest making and valid in

2012-07-14 Thread Ian Yang
led explanations or examples? Thanks. Sincerely, Ian Yang

Re: [whatwg] Suggest making and valid in

2012-07-14 Thread Ian Yang
ered, the itself being unable to do that is, imho, disappointing. Sincerely, Ian Yang

[whatwg] Suggest making and valid in

2012-07-13 Thread Ian Yang
markup more meaningful And we surely don't need and in because using is more appropriate. Sincerely, Ian Yang Meaningful and semantic HTML lover | Front-end developer

Re: [whatwg] "content" element, which we need in our documents

2012-06-29 Thread Ian Yang
Hi Steve, Thank you. I understand. Regards, Ian 2012/6/29 Steve Faulkner > Hi Ian, > > ARIA fills the gap in HTML with role="main" > http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/roles#main > > I agree that an explicit element would be nice, but the powers that be have > rejected the idea. > > -- > with regar

Re: [whatwg] "content" element, which we need in our documents

2012-06-29 Thread Ian Yang
e read question for me is: What is the problem of having the content at > the same level of and (for example inside an )? > > Can't we treat everything inside an article which is not in or > is the real "content"? > > Best regards > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 a

Re: [whatwg] "content" element, which we need in our documents

2012-06-29 Thread Ian Yang
candidate for containing a website or a blog entry's main content. That obviously is the reason that the example of the nav in HTML5 spec doesn't use them. Regards, Ian Yang 2012/6/29 Cameron Jones > If the content is a special section within the document you should use > the element wh

Re: [whatwg] "content" element, which we need in our documents

2012-06-29 Thread Ian Yang
, Ian Yang 2012/6/29 Ashley Sheridan > > > Ian Yang wrote: > > >Hi editors in chief and everyone else, > > > >How have you been recently? > > > >As many of you may have been aware that there is an important > >sectioning > >element we hav

[whatwg] "content" element, which we need in our documents

2012-06-29 Thread Ian Yang
elements being used to wrap all the contents of the page other than the header and footer, and all the contents of the blog entry other than its header and footer." This example mentioned above is a typical situation that we need an element for the main content. So instead of keep wrapping our