Re: [whatwg] Problems with width/height descriptors in srcset

2012-05-16 Thread Jason Grigsby
On May 16, 2012, at 6:45 AM, Jeremy Keith wrote: > Simon wrote: >> The width/height descriptors in srcset seem to be difficult for people to >> get right, even people who read the spec. >> >> * It's not clear from the syntax that it refers to the viewport size rather >> than the image size. >

Re: [whatwg] Features for responsive Web design

2012-05-15 Thread Jason Grigsby
On May 15, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: > I suspect this is simply confusion about the proposal - @srcset > handles the "art-directed" case same as , just with a > somewhat more compact microsyntax rather than using MQs directly. (On > the plus side, the slightly-special processing of

Re: [whatwg] Features for responsive Web design

2012-05-15 Thread Jason Grigsby
On May 15, 2012, at 9:54 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Jason Grigsby wrote: >> Are you saying that all of the image source listed in srcset would have the >> same aspect ratio? In the example Hixie provided, face-icon.png is a >> different

Re: [whatwg] Features for responsive Web design

2012-05-15 Thread Jason Grigsby
On May 15, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Jason Grigsby wrote: >> On May 15, 2012, at 12:28 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: >>>> * Example 2: On the Nokia Browser site where it describes the Meego >>>> browser, the Nokia L

Re: [whatwg] Features for responsive Web design

2012-05-15 Thread Jason Grigsby
On May 15, 2012, at 12:28 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: >> * Example 2: On the Nokia Browser site where it describes the Meego >> browser, the Nokia Lumia is show horizontally on wide screens. As the >> screen narrows, the Nokia Lumia is then shown vertically and cropped. >> Bryan and Stephanie Rieger

Re: [whatwg] Implementation complexity with elements vs an attribute (responsive images)

2012-05-13 Thread Jason Grigsby
On May 13, 2012, at 9:51 AM, David Goss wrote: > A common sentiment here seems to be that the two proposed responsive > image solutions solve two different use cases: After skyping with Mat (@wilto) last night, I think I may be the only one who didn’t fully grok that the mediaqueries in could b

Re: [whatwg] Implementation complexity with elements vs an attribute (responsive images)

2012-05-12 Thread Jason Grigsby
I didn’t want to cloud my previous email with my opinions on various solutions, but as you may expect, I have some thoughts on the solutions to these two use cases. On May 13, 2012, at 12:43 AM, Jason Grigsby wrote: > Use case #1 > --- > Document author needs to display

Re: [whatwg] Implementation complexity with elements vs an attribute (responsive images)

2012-05-12 Thread Jason Grigsby
On May 11, 2012, at 8:52 PM, Simon Pieters wrote: > There seem to be two proposals for what syntax to use for the responsive > images use case: several elements vs. an attribute. There are two proposals because they solve two different use cases. Both use cases are becoming increasingly importa

Re: [whatwg] add html-attribute for "responsive images"

2012-02-08 Thread Jason Grigsby
On Feb 8, 2012, at 8:54 AM, FOUSHEE, SEAN wrote: > I'm late to this discussion so pardon me if this has already been discussed, > by using the same logic as the why not just create to go > along with the element? When a bunch of us discussed this on an etherpad a while back, we ruled out

Re: [whatwg] RWD Heaven: if browsers reported device capabilities in a request header

2012-02-08 Thread Jason Grigsby
On Feb 8, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Ronjec Viktor wrote: > People, this is really getting out of hand... > > 1. WHATWG is a standards body, meaning it _standardizes_ solutions. > Everyone who followed the discussion up until now can easily tell that > currently there is no unified, or even close to comm

Re: [whatwg] add html-attribute for "responsive images"

2012-02-07 Thread Jason Grigsby
I’ve read that comment three times and still don’t grok it. :-) It seems the comment mixes lookahead pre-parsing behavior with pre-fetching and pre-rendering behavior. Compare the definitions of pre-fetching and pre-rendering in the Google Chrome documentation that the comment points to: http://

Re: [whatwg] RWD Heaven: if browsers reported device capabilities in a request header

2012-02-07 Thread Jason Grigsby
Then yes, I can get behind the idea of that such a communication method would be very useful. On Feb 7, 2012, at 4:55 AM, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > Absolutely agree that we should not be concentrating on one specific thing. > What I want is the ability to have the server ask for whatever info it

Re: [whatwg] RWD Heaven: if browsers reported device capabilities in a request header

2012-02-06 Thread Jason Grigsby
I agree that this is a problem. I’ve spent far too much time trying to find solutions for images in responsive designs and none that I reviewed work. (research at http://cloudfour.com/responsive-imgs-part-2). But I find the arguments that Henri Sivonen made against putting the information in th