Re: [whatwg]

2009-10-20 Thread Nelson Menezes
specific format. I'm not keen on solving this problem by changing the way linking works; that was the beauty of the original proposal (other problems notwithstanding). This seems like a fancy way to bookmark frames... Nelson Menezes http://fittopage.org

Re: [whatwg]

2009-10-18 Thread Nelson Menezes
2009/10/18 Tab Atkins Jr. : > On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Nelson Menezes > wrote: >> 2009/10/18 Tab Atkins Jr. : >>> As long as the event bubbles, you can always just listen at the >>> document root and then check event.target to see who got updated. >>&g

Re: [whatwg]

2009-10-18 Thread Nelson Menezes
iginated via scripting. Nelson Menezes http://fittopage.org

Re: [whatwg]

2009-10-18 Thread Nelson Menezes
ure this: ... Ingredients Nutrition Preparation ... ... Let's say I click the links in order (Ingredients, Nutrition, Preparation), and now bookmark the page (it's now preparation.html). When I return to it, #div1 and #div2 will only be populated if preparation.html is guaranteed t

Re: [whatwg]

2009-10-18 Thread Nelson Menezes
2009/10/18 Nelson Menezes : > [1] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa155133.aspx > [2] http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/examples/treeview/dynamic_tree.html Oops, sorry, I meant to give a couple of examples (above) of existing approaches to maintain user UI state. [1] involves page refr

Re: [whatwg]

2009-10-18 Thread Nelson Menezes
? > It seems like the kind of thing that we could adopt early on in the next > feature cycle, if it turns out to be a good solid model. Is there a mailing list for HTML 6? :-) [1] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa155133.aspx [2] http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/examples/treeview/dynamic_tree.html Nelson Menezes http://fittopage.org

Re: [whatwg]

2009-10-18 Thread Nelson Menezes
eally isn't an elegant solution as-is :) Nelson Menezes http://fittopage.org 2009/10/18 Jonas Sicking : > On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Nelson Menezes > wrote: >> 2009/10/17 Jonas Sicking : >>> In fact, you don't even need to use pushState. For now this can

Re: [whatwg]

2009-10-17 Thread Nelson Menezes
ing that can be tried today. Well, here's a badly-hacked-together solution that emulates this behaviour... I think it'll be helpful even if it only gets used in a JS library as you mention (change the attribute to a classname then). Still, it can be made to work with today's browsers: ht

Re: [whatwg]

2009-10-17 Thread Nelson Menezes
As for the back button, there are a few possibilities: - Reload the full page - Load & process the document using the same "onlyreplace" behaviour as explained in the original email - Allow a response header that specifies which of the above the browser should do on clicking the back button ("backwards-navigation-safe: True"?) - The browser remembers the state of the document as it was prior to each history point and resets it to that state before applying the point in history we are jumping to (yikes!) Any concerns about caching that aren't covered by the above? Nelson Menezes http://fittopage.org

Re: [whatwg] framesets

2009-10-15 Thread Nelson Menezes
et issue that is inherent in full-page refreshes. Maybe there is room for a better, standard-based approach to solving this issue, but framesets ain't it. [1] http://methvin.com/splitter/4psplitter.html [2] http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/examples/layout/page_layout.html [3] http://www.w3.org/TR/htm