Re: [whatwg] Built-in image sprite support in HTML5

2011-12-03 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 5:14 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:09 AM, David Weitzman dweitz...@gmail.com wrote: Reviving an old question here: is there anything in current or upcoming web specs that should give me hope that I will eventually see a day when

Re: [whatwg] Built-in image sprite support in HTML5

2011-12-01 Thread David Weitzman
Reviving an old question here: is there anything in current or upcoming web specs that should give me hope that I will eventually see a day when sprites are either unnecessary at a protocol level or easily supported in img tags? On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:01 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com

Re: [whatwg] Built-in image sprite support in HTML5

2011-12-01 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:09 AM, David Weitzman dweitz...@gmail.com wrote: Reviving an old question here: is there anything in current or upcoming web specs that should give me hope that I will eventually see a day when sprites are either unnecessary at a protocol level or easily supported in

Re: [whatwg] Built-in image sprite support in HTML5

2010-08-26 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: It would, however, be good to have an indication where HTML would like to see it going. Would it be better for a media fragment URI for images such as http://example.com/picture.png#xywh=160,120,320,240  to

Re: [whatwg] Built-in image sprite support in HTML5

2010-08-26 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: It would, however, be good to have an indication where HTML would like to see it going. Would it be better for a media fragment URI

Re: [whatwg] Built-in image sprite support in HTML5

2010-08-25 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: However, what exactly happens with a media fragment URI like http://example.com/picture.png#xywh=160,120,320,240 is not fully specified in the Media Fragment URI spec. I would recommend fixing that. :-) Well, that goes into

Re: [whatwg] Built-in image sprite support in HTML5

2010-08-25 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: However, what exactly happens with a media fragment URI like http://example.com/picture.png#xywh=160,120,320,240 is not fully specified in the Media Fragment URI spec.

Re: [whatwg] Built-in image sprite support in HTML5

2010-08-25 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: As we adopt media fragment URIs into the HTML5 spec, we should prescribe what the user experience is meant to be, such that UAs can implement a consistent handling. I don't think it makes sense to have the

Re: [whatwg] Built-in image sprite support in HTML5

2010-08-25 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Aug 25, 2010, at 7:00 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: There are recommendations for what to do with video in the browser. I can encourage the group to also make recommendations for what it means for images in the browser. However, the use of Media Fragment URIs in applications in general

Re: [whatwg] Built-in image sprite support in HTML5

2010-08-03 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 21 May 2010, David Weitzman wrote: There are various approaches to using image sprites with HTML and CSS, but at the end of the day they are all essentially hacks. A solution that would be simpler than any existing approach would be to introduce new attributes for img to specify x

Re: [whatwg] Built-in image sprite support in HTML5

2010-08-03 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 21 May 2010, David Weitzman wrote: There are various approaches to using image sprites with HTML and CSS, but at the end of the day they are all essentially hacks. A solution that would be simpler than any existing

Re: [whatwg] Built-in image sprite support in HTML5

2010-05-31 Thread Mike Hearn
HTTP-level solutions are vulnerable to broken proxies and caches, of which there are many. This is why HTTP pipelining doesn't really work. Yeah I know, but does that mean HTML should work around lack of features in HTTP? I mean you could say HTML5 is vulnerable to broken browsers :-)

Re: [whatwg] Built-in image sprite support in HTML5

2010-05-31 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Mike Hearn m...@plan99.net wrote: HTTP-level solutions are vulnerable to broken proxies and caches, of which there are many. This is why HTTP pipelining doesn't really work. Yeah I know, but does that mean HTML should work around lack of features in HTTP? I

Re: [whatwg] Built-in image sprite support in HTML5

2010-05-30 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 3:58 AM, Mike Hearn m...@plan99.net wrote: Yeah, I'd think this isn't really a problem that should be solved as part of HTML5 but rather as improvements to the protocol level. Spriting is after all just a hack around the strict 1-file-1-request nature of HTTP and not

Re: [whatwg] Built-in image sprite support in HTML5

2010-05-29 Thread Mike Hearn
Finally, there have been proposals for removing the need to sprite altogether, by allowing authors to send a bunch of resources packed into a single compressed archive, and just addressing individual files inside of it. Yeah, I'd think this isn't really a problem that should be solved as part

Re: [whatwg] Built-in image sprite support in HTML5

2010-05-23 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: However, what exactly happens with a media fragment URI like http://example.com/picture.png#xywh=160,120,320,240 is not fully specified in the Media Fragment URI spec. One thought was to just highlight the area

[whatwg] Built-in image sprite support in HTML5

2010-05-21 Thread David Weitzman
There are various approaches to using image sprites with HTML and CSS, but at the end of the day they are all essentially hacks. A solution that would be simpler than any existing approach would be to introduce new attributes for img to specify x and y offsets and clipping on images. With that you

Re: [whatwg] Built-in image sprite support in HTML5

2010-05-21 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 10:12 -0700, David Weitzman wrote: There are various approaches to using image sprites with HTML and CSS, but at the end of the day they are all essentially hacks. A solution that would be simpler than any existing approach would be to introduce new attributes for img to

Re: [whatwg] Built-in image sprite support in HTML5

2010-05-21 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:12 AM, David Weitzman dweitz...@gmail.com wrote: There are various approaches to using image sprites with HTML and CSS, but at the end of the day they are all essentially hacks. A solution that would be simpler than any existing approach would be to introduce new

Re: [whatwg] Built-in image sprite support in HTML5

2010-05-21 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 3:23 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:12 AM, David Weitzman dweitz...@gmail.com wrote: There are various approaches to using image sprites with HTML and CSS, but at the end of the day they are all essentially hacks. A solution