Re: [whatwg] File Upload Progress Event (Upload Progress)

2010-12-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Shiv Kumar wrote: I'd like to propose that UAs should surface an bytes transferred event when a form is being submitted. With so many large files being uploaded using browsers today and every website that allows this having had to implement their own upload progress

Re: [whatwg] File Upload Progress Event (Upload Progress)

2010-12-28 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Adding it to the spec doesn't do anything if it doesn't get added to implementations also. Given that UAs haven't made upload feedback a priority, why would they make events for upload a priority? It's more or less the same

Re: [whatwg] File Upload Progress Event (Upload Progress)

2010-09-22 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Shiv Kumar sku...@exposureroom.com wrote: Yes, I guess in way. Including it in a spec gives them guidelines so the chances of all implementers providing the same info goes up. I think that is the point of the spec (providing guidelines). No, the main point of

Re: [whatwg] File Upload Progress Event (Upload Progress)

2010-09-21 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Shiv Kumar sku...@exposureroom.com wrote: From your arguments (it can be done using script) we don't need all of the new form elements then do we? We can simply implement their functionality using JavaScript like, we've been doing for a decade or so. I feel

Re: [whatwg] File Upload Progress Event (Upload Progress)

2010-09-21 Thread Shiv Kumar
-Original Message- From: whatwg-boun...@lists.whatwg.org [mailto:whatwg-boun...@lists.whatwg.org] On Behalf Of Aryeh Gregor Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 3:33 PM To: Shiv Kumar; resca...@emsai.net Cc: WHATWg Subject: Re: [whatwg] File Upload Progress Event (Upload Progress) On Mon, Sep 20, 2010

Re: [whatwg] File Upload Progress Event (Upload Progress)

2010-09-20 Thread Olli Pettay
On 09/20/2010 06:42 AM, Shiv Kumar wrote: Areyah, thanks for your inputs thus far. At that point, the user is already in the process of navigating away from the page. Keep in mind that I'm talking about large file uploads. For the typically user that takes about 2-6 hours. So they may be in

Re: [whatwg] File Upload Progress Event (Upload Progress)

2010-09-20 Thread Shiv Kumar
of this feature. Shiv http://exposureroom.com -Original Message- From: Olli Pettay [mailto:olli.pet...@helsinki.fi] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 4:16 AM To: Shiv Kumar Cc: 'WHATWg' Subject: Re: [whatwg] File Upload Progress Event (Upload Progress) On 09/20/2010 06:42 AM, Shiv Kumar

Re: [whatwg] File Upload Progress Event (Upload Progress)

2010-09-20 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Shiv Kumar sku...@exposureroom.com wrote: At the same time, if I were to use Flash to upload the file, I don't need server side support to show progress and almost every website (that deals with large file uploads) today uses Flash to display upload progress

Re: [whatwg] File Upload Progress Event (Upload Progress)

2010-09-20 Thread Shiv Kumar
...@lists.whatwg.org] On Behalf Of Aryeh Gregor Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:12 PM To: Shiv Kumar Cc: WHATWg Subject: Re: [whatwg] File Upload Progress Event (Upload Progress) On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Shiv Kumar sku...@exposureroom.com wrote: At the same time, if I were to use Flash to upload

Re: [whatwg] File Upload Progress Event (Upload Progress)

2010-09-20 Thread Roger Hågensen
On 2010-09-20 10:16, Olli Pettay wrote: I do think browser UI for large uploads is terrible and needs to be fixed. I agree! Yeah, the UI is terrible, but that is about browser implementations and not about any specification. Well! There is nothing preventing the specs from providing a

Re: [whatwg] File Upload Progress Event (Upload Progress)

2010-09-20 Thread Shiv Kumar
, September 20, 2010 6:39 PM To: whatwg@lists.whatwg.org Subject: Re: [whatwg] File Upload Progress Event (Upload Progress) On 2010-09-20 10:16, Olli Pettay wrote: I do think browser UI for large uploads is terrible and needs to be fixed. I agree! Yeah, the UI is terrible, but that is about browser

Re: [whatwg] File Upload Progress Event (Upload Progress)

2010-09-20 Thread Nils Dagsson Moskopp
21.09.10 Roger Hågensen resca...@emsai.net: On 2010-09-20 10:16, Olli Pettay wrote: I do think browser UI for large uploads is terrible and needs to be fixed. I agree! Yeah, the UI is terrible, but that is about browser implementations and not about any specification. Well!

Re: [whatwg] File Upload Progress Event (Upload Progress)

2010-09-20 Thread Roger Hågensen
On 2010-09-21 00:59, Nils Dagsson Moskopp wrote: 21.09.10 Roger Hågensenresca...@emsai.net: Well! There is nothing preventing the specs from providing a minimum UI guideline that should be followed by UAs. UAs compete on interface, too. As long as the standards are open and consistent, why

Re: [whatwg] File Upload Progress Event (Upload Progress)

2010-09-20 Thread Shiv Kumar
-boun...@lists.whatwg.org] On Behalf Of Roger Hågensen Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 7:13 PM To: whatwg@lists.whatwg.org Subject: Re: [whatwg] File Upload Progress Event (Upload Progress) On 2010-09-21 00:59, Nils Dagsson Moskopp wrote: 21.09.10 Roger Hågensenresca...@emsai.net: Well

[whatwg] File Upload Progress Event (Upload Progress)

2010-09-19 Thread Shiv Kumar
I'd like to propose that UAs should surface an bytes transferred event when a form is being submitted. With so many large files being uploaded using browsers today and every website that allows this having had to implement their own upload progress indicator I think the Html 5 spec should support

Re: [whatwg] File Upload Progress Event (Upload Progress)

2010-09-19 Thread Olli Pettay
XMLHttpRequest has progress events and you can send files and form data using it. -Olli On 09/20/2010 12:20 AM, Shiv Kumar wrote: I’d like to propose that UAs should surface an bytes transferred event when a form is being submitted. With so many large files being uploaded using browsers

Re: [whatwg] File Upload Progress Event (Upload Progress)

2010-09-19 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Shiv Kumar sku...@exposureroom.com wrote: I’d like to propose that UAs should surface an bytes transferred event when a form is being submitted. With so many large files being uploaded using browsers today and every website that allows this having had to

Re: [whatwg] File Upload Progress Event (Upload Progress)

2010-09-19 Thread Shiv Kumar
Areyah, thanks for your inputs thus far. At that point, the user is already in the process of navigating away from the page. Keep in mind that I'm talking about large file uploads. For the typically user that takes about 2-6 hours. So they may be in the process of navigating away, but that