Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element

2008-10-29 Thread Křištof Želechovski
, 2008 6:06 AM To: Křištof Želechovski Cc: 'WHAT-WG' Subject: Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Křištof Želechovski wrote: The text that Windows places near check boxes and radio buttons corresponds to INPUT[value], not to LABEL. No, the value

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element

2008-10-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Křištof Želechovski wrote: Of course, a Windows check box label corresponds to nothing in HTML! This is incorrect. A Windows checkbox label corresponds to the contents of a label element associated with an input type=checkbox element. Do you think the Internet Explorer

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element

2008-10-29 Thread Křištof Želechovski
: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Křištof Želechovski wrote: Of course, a Windows check box label corresponds to nothing in HTML! This is incorrect. A Windows checkbox label corresponds to the contents of a label element associated with an input type

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element

2008-10-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Křištof Želechovski wrote: We have a different opinion on what corresponds means. A label in HTML is detached, both logically and graphically, while a TITLE in Windows GUI is attached. You can translate from Windows GUI to HTML - but this direction is not interesting;

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element

2008-10-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 7 May 2007, Brad Fults wrote: Currently, as far as I can tell, in HTML 4 and HTML 5, the label element is defined as having inline content. When using the implicit form control association pattern described in the HTML 4 spec (e.g. a form control inside of the label element instead

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element

2008-10-28 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Atkins Cc: WHAT-WG Subject: Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element On Wed, 9 May 2007, Kitof elechovski wrote: The restriction on LABEL behavior is not a clarification, it is a change. The browser vendor has to choose whether it is compliant with version 4 or 5. Therefore

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element

2008-10-28 Thread Nils Dagsson Moskopp
Am Mittwoch, den 29.10.2008, 01:27 +0100 schrieb Kristof Zelechovski: What is the equivalent of the LABEL control under Microsoft Windows? http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms743463.aspx (Under 9000 seconds in your favorite search engine.) Harr harr, -- Nils Dagsson Moskopp

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element

2008-10-28 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 1:34 AM To: whatwg Subject: Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element Am Mittwoch, den 29.10.2008, 01:27 +0100 schrieb Kristof Zelechovski: What is the equivalent of the LABEL control under Microsoft Windows? http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element

2008-10-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Kristof Zelechovski wrote: What is the equivalent of the LABEL control under Microsoft Windows? There are various controls that have equivalents. But basically any text that is displayed next to an interactive control in a way that labels the interactive control. --

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element

2008-10-28 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
: 'WHAT-WG' Subject: RE: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Kristof Zelechovski wrote: What is the equivalent of the LABEL control under Microsoft Windows? There are various controls that have equivalents. But basically any text that is displayed

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element

2008-10-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Kristof Zelechovski wrote: Does that mean that Internet Explorer should NOT redirect focus from a LABEL to the control because the operating system GUI does not do that either? For checkboxes and radio buttons, the text that Windows places near the interactive widget

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element

2008-10-28 Thread Křištof Želechovski
will be inconsistent. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Hickson Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:10 AM To: Kristof Zelechovski Cc: 'WHAT-WG' Subject: Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element On Wed, 29 Oct

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element

2008-10-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Křištof Želechovski wrote: The text that Windows places near check boxes and radio buttons corresponds to INPUT[value], not to LABEL. No, the value= attribute is the internal value for submission purposes and is not UI text. Internet Explorer redirects focus from

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element

2008-05-04 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
On May 9, 2007, at 2:27 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: On May 8, 2007, at 9:06 PM, Kristof Zelechovski wrote: ... From the behavioral point of view: The purpose of a LABEL control is to redirect focus on click. It does not make much sense with a TEXTAREA control that is usually big enough

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element

2007-05-11 Thread Křištof Želechovski
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 4:17 PM To: 'WHAT-WG' List' Subject: Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element On May 9, 2007, at 10:28 PM, Křištof Želechovski wrote: The restriction on LABEL behavior is not a clarification, it is a change. Sorry, that was a poor word choice

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element

2007-05-09 Thread Křištof Želechovski
cannot infer anything about the behavior of such a label. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Paul Thomas Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 3:28 AM To: 'WHAT-WG' Subject: Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element On May

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element

2007-05-08 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element Currently, as far as I can tell, in HTML 4 [1] and HTML 5 [2], the label element is defined as having inline content. When using the implicit form control association pattern described in the HTML 4 spec (e.g. a form control inside of the label element

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element

2007-05-08 Thread Simon Pieters
On Tue, 08 May 2007 05:46:57 +0200, Brad Fults [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently, as far as I can tell, in HTML 4 [1] and HTML 5 [2], the label element is defined as having inline content. When using the implicit form control association pattern described in the HTML 4 spec (e.g. a form

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element

2007-05-08 Thread Martin Atkins
Brad Fults wrote: Currently, as far as I can tell, in HTML 4 [1] and HTML 5 [2], the label element is defined as having inline content. When using the implicit form control association pattern described in the HTML 4 spec (e.g. a form control inside of the label element instead of or in addition

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element

2007-05-08 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
Kristof Zelechovski wrote: From the behavioral point of view: The purpose of a LABEL control is to redirect focus on click. It does not make much sense with a TEXTAREA control that is usually big enough to click upon. That is not /the/ purpose of a LABEL element, but merely one way in which

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element

2007-05-08 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
On May 8, 2007, at 9:06 PM, Kristof Zelechovski wrote: ... From the behavioral point of view: The purpose of a LABEL control is to redirect focus on click. It does not make much sense with a TEXTAREA control that is usually big enough to click upon. ... If a browser redirects focus to a *text

[whatwg] Proposal: Allow block content inside label element

2007-05-07 Thread Brad Fults
Currently, as far as I can tell, in HTML 4 [1] and HTML 5 [2], the label element is defined as having inline content. When using the implicit form control association pattern described in the HTML 4 spec (e.g. a form control inside of the label element instead of or in addition to using the |for|