On Fri, 22 May 2009, Dan Brickley wrote:
On 22/5/09 09:21, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Fri, 22 May 2009, Henri Sivonen wrote:
On May 22, 2009, at 09:01, Ian Hickson wrote:
USE CASE: Remove the need for feeds to restate the content of HTML
pages
(i.e. replace Atom with HTML).
On 5/22/09, Eduard Pascual herenva...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
For manually authored pages and feeds things would be different; but
are there really a significant ammount of such cases out there? I
can't say I have seen the entire web (who can?), but among what I have
seen, I have never
One of the use cases I collected from the e-mails sent in over the past
few months was the following:
USE CASE: Remove the need for feeds to restate the content of HTML pages
(i.e. replace Atom with HTML).
SCENARIOS:
* Paul maintains a blog and wishes to write his blog in such a
On May 22, 2009, at 09:01, Ian Hickson wrote:
USE CASE: Remove the need for feeds to restate the content of HTML
pages
(i.e. replace Atom with HTML).
Did you do some kind of Is this Good for the Web? analysis on this
one? That is, do things get better if there's yet another feed
On Fri, 22 May 2009, Henri Sivonen wrote:
On May 22, 2009, at 09:01, Ian Hickson wrote:
USE CASE: Remove the need for feeds to restate the content of HTML pages
(i.e. replace Atom with HTML).
Did you do some kind of Is this Good for the Web? analysis on this
one? That is, do
On 22/5/09 09:21, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Fri, 22 May 2009, Henri Sivonen wrote:
On May 22, 2009, at 09:01, Ian Hickson wrote:
USE CASE: Remove the need for feeds to restate the content of HTML pages
(i.e. replace Atom with HTML).
Did you do some kind of Is this Good for the Web? analysis
On 22/05/2009 08:21, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
As far as I can tell, things get better if the feed format and the default
output format are the same, yes. Generally, redundant information has
tended to lead to problems.
Can you point to examples of this in relation to the use of feeds
On 22/05/2009 08:21, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
As far as I can tell, things get better if the feed format and the default
output format are the same, yes. Generally, redundant information has
tended to lead to problems.
Can you point to examples of this in relation to the use of feeds
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Fri, 22 May 2009, Henri Sivonen wrote:
On May 22, 2009, at 09:01, Ian Hickson wrote:
USE CASE: Remove the need for feeds to restate the content of HTML pages
(i.e. replace Atom with HTML).
Did you do some kind of Is
Adrian Sutton writes:
On 22/05/2009 08:21, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
As far as I can tell, things get better if the feed format and the
default output format are the same, yes. Generally, redundant
information has tended to lead to problems.
Can you point to examples of this in
Eduard Pascual wrote:
For manually authored pages and feeds things would be different; but
are there really a significant ammount of such cases out there? I
can't say I have seen the entire web (who can?), but among what I have
seen, I have never encountered any hand authored feed, except for
On 22/05/2009 11:36, Toby Inkster m...@tobyinkster.co.uk wrote:
Surely this proves the need for a way of extracting feeds from HTML?
You never see manually written feeds because people can't be bothered to
manually write feeds. So the people who manually author HTML simply
don't bother
I also wonder if feeds being accessible in HTML might give rise, as with
stylesheets and scripts contained in the head (convenient as those can
be too), to excessive bandwidth, as agents repeatedly request updates to
a whole HTML page containing a lot of other data.
(If we had external
On 22/5/09 12:36, Toby Inkster wrote:
Eduard Pascual wrote:
For manually authored pages and feeds things would be different; but
are there really a significant ammount of such cases out there? I
can't say I have seen the entire web (who can?), but among what I have
seen, I have never
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Adrian Sutton adrian.sut...@ephox.com wrote:
[...]
Can anyone point to examples where the content is entirely hand crafted and
a feed would actually make sense?
Perhaps a page like http://philip.html5.org/data.html - people might
want to subscribe in their
On 22/05/2009 13:32, Philip Taylor excors+wha...@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps a page like http://philip.html5.org/data.html - people might
want to subscribe in their feed reader to see all the exciting
updates, and the markup is all hand-written. It's not at all like a
blog, but maybe it's data
On 22/05/2009 13:32, Philip Taylor excors+wha...@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps a page like http://philip.html5.org/data.html - people might
want to subscribe in their feed reader to see all the exciting
updates, and the markup is all hand-written. It's not at all like a
blog, but maybe it's data
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Adrian Sutton adrian.sut...@ephox.com wrote:
On 22/05/2009 13:32, Philip Taylor excors+wha...@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps a page like http://philip.html5.org/data.html - people might
want to subscribe in their feed reader to see all the exciting
updates, and the
On Fri, 22 May 2009 09:41:43 +0100, Eduard Pascual herenva...@gmail.com wrote:
For manually authored pages and feeds things would be different; but
are there really a significant ammount of such cases out there? I
can't say I have seen the entire web (who can?), but among what I have
seen, I
On Fri, 22 May 2009 07:01:51 +0100, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
It doesn't collect the blogroll or the blog post tags yet, mostly because
I'm not sure how to do that. Any suggestions of improvements are
naturally welcome.
There's hAtom that solves this problem already, and appears to
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