On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Evan Stade wrote:
> The majority of forms ask for tokenized data; my impression is this is
> necessary given their backends (be it columns in a user info database, a
> payment provider that requires tokenized address, etc.) So I don't think
> it's practical to impos
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Qebui Nehebkau <
qebui.nehebkau+wha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:41 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> > I think the arguments you've presented so far suggest "address-levelN"
> for
> > N=1..4, with 4=region and 3=locality, is probably the simplest thing
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2014, Evan Stade wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >"address-line1" |
> > > > > > >"address-line2" |- "street-address"
> > > > > > >"address-line3" |
> > > > > > >
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:41 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> I think the arguments you've presented so far suggest "address-levelN" for
> N=1..4, with 4=region and 3=locality, is probably the simplest thing to
> do. I was hoping there might be other people with opinions, to give us
> different perspectiv
On Tue, 4 Mar 2014, Evan Stade wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >"address-line1" |
> > > > > >"address-line2" |- "street-address"
> > > > > >"address-line3" |
> > > > > >"address-level4"
> > > > > >"address-level3"
> > > > > >
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2014, Evan Stade wrote:
> > >
> > > I am not convinced it'd be that big a load (users generally know what
> > > parts of their addresses are required!). But in any case, if we're
> > > talking about mom-and-pop stores with a minim
On Tue, 4 Mar 2014, Evan Stade wrote:
> >
> > I am not convinced it'd be that big a load (users generally know what
> > parts of their addresses are required!). But in any case, if we're
> > talking about mom-and-pop stores with a minimal load of international
> > orders in the first place, it's
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
>
> On Mon, 3 Mar 2014, Evan Stade wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I don't think you can just write a stack of inputs that accepts
> > > > input for any country. The country determines:
> > > >
> > > > a) what fields make sense
> > > > b) what fields are
On Mon, 3 Mar 2014, Evan Stade wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't think you can just write a stack of inputs that accepts
> > > input for any country. The country determines:
> > >
> > > a) what fields make sense
> > > b) what fields are required
> > > c) the order of fields
> > >
> > > You could ignore
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Mar 2014, Evan Stade wrote:
> >
> > I'm still confused. The site author has entered bad markup. Is your
> > concern that site authors will be unable to write good markup?
>
> Some will write good markup, I'm sure.
>
> Our job as langu
On Mon, 3 Mar 2014, Evan Stade wrote:
>
> I'm still confused. The site author has entered bad markup. Is your
> concern that site authors will be unable to write good markup?
Some will write good markup, I'm sure.
Our job as language designers is to maximise the number of authors doing a
good
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Feb 2014, Evan Stade wrote [slightly edited for correctness]:
> > On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Ian Hickson wrote
> > [slightly edited for correctness]:
> > >
> > > My concern is that authors do something like this:
> > >
> > >
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014, Evan Stade wrote [slightly edited for correctness]:
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Ian Hickson wrote
> [slightly edited for correctness]:
> >
> > My concern is that authors do something like this:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ...and then the user enters their addre
Alex Bishop writes:
> On 22/02/2014 04:05, Ian Hickson wrote:
>> The post office will deal with all kinds of stuff, sure. But Web forms
>> only have to accept the formal address format, which in the UK only ever
>> has a street, a locality (sometimes), a post town, and a post code.
>
> That’s all
On 22/02/2014 04:05, Ian Hickson wrote:
The post office will deal with all kinds of stuff, sure. But Web forms
only have to accept the formal address format, which in the UK only ever
has a street, a locality (sometimes), a post town, and a post code.
That’s all Royal Mail has to deal with, sur
On Sat, 01 Mar 2014 02:47:06 +0100, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
2014-02-22 3:03, Ian Hickson wrote:
>
> (Note that a lot of people in the UK have no idea how to write their
> address according to current standards. For example, people often
> include the cou
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Feb 2014, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
> > 2014-02-22 3:03, Ian Hickson wrote:
> > >
> > > (Note that a lot of people in the UK have no idea how to write their
> > > address according to current standards. For example, people often
> > >
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
> 2014-02-22 3:03, Ian Hickson wrote:
> >
> > (Note that a lot of people in the UK have no idea how to write their
> > address according to current standards. For example, people often
> > include the county, give the "real" town rather than the "post
I think it is dangerous to make any kind of assumption about valid postal
addresses.
Here's a great list of all kinds of exceptions to rules that programmers tend
to believe to be true:
(Don't we love rules?)
http://www.mjt.me.uk/posts/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-addresses/
Jürg
On
(Trying again from alternate email address; apologies if this message shows
up twice.) Regarding UK addresses, libaddressinput[1], which is used by
Google for various products, currently accepts two levels of administrative
region for GB: city and optional county.
> This would be the first open-en
On 24 Feb 2014 05:17, "Charles McCathie Nevile"
wrote:
>
> On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 05:05:06 +0100, Ian Hickson wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 21 Feb 2014, Kevin Marks wrote:
>>>
>>> On 21 Feb 2014 17:03, "Ian Hickson" wrote:
>>> > > Those names come from vcard - if adding a new one, consider how to
>>> > > mod
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 05:05:06 +0100, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014, Kevin Marks wrote:
On 21 Feb 2014 17:03, "Ian Hickson" wrote:
> > Those names come from vcard - if adding a new one, consider how to
> > model it in vcard too. Note that UK addresses can have this too - eg
> > 3 high
2014-02-22 3:03, Ian Hickson wrote:
(Note that a lot of people in the UK have no idea how to write their
address according to current standards. For example, people often include
the county, give the "real" town rather than the "post town", put things
out of order, indent each line of the addres
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014, Kevin Marks wrote:
> On 21 Feb 2014 17:03, "Ian Hickson" wrote:
> > > Those names come from vcard - if adding a new one, consider how to
> > > model it in vcard too. Note that UK addresses can have this too - eg
> > > 3 high street, Kenton, Harrow, Middlesex, UK
> >
> > That
On 21 Feb 2014 17:03, "Ian Hickson" wrote:
>
> On Fri, 21 Feb 2014, Kevin Marks wrote:
> >
>
> > Those names come from vcard - if adding a new one, consider how to
model it
> > in vcard too. Note that UK addresses can have this too - eg 3 high
street,
> > Kenton, Harrow, Middlesex, UK
>
> That's
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014, Kevin Marks wrote:
>
> Would putting the 2 degrees of locality as comma separated in that field
> make more sense?
> Given that this schema is the most widespread addressbook format, I'm sure
> someone has a dataset to discover usage (Google? Apple? Microsoft?)
That's a reason
Those names come from vcard - if adding a new one, consider how to model it
in vcard too. Note that UK addresses can have this too - eg 3 high street,
Kenton, Harrow, Middlesex, UK
Would putting the 2 degrees of locality as comma separated in that field
make more sense?
Given that this schema is th
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014, Dan Beam wrote:
>
> While internationalizing Chrome’s implementation of
> requestAutocomplete(), we found that Chinese, Korean, and Thai addresses
> commonly ask for [at least] 3 levels of administrative region. For
> example, in this Chinese address:
>
> Humble Administr
While internationalizing Chrome’s implementation of
requestAutocomplete(), we found that Chinese, Korean, and Thai
addresses commonly ask for [at least] 3 levels of administrative
region. For example, in this Chinese address:
Humble Administrator’s Garden
n°178 Dongbei Street, Gusu, Suzhou
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