Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2012-06-07 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: > > In short, I agree that if the implementation cost was high here that we > > could compromise on this design and go with something less clean or with > > less graceful fallback, because it is true t

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2012-02-20 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: > In short, I agree that if the implementation cost was high here that we > could compromise on this design and go with something less clean or with > less graceful fallback, because it is true that many authors will not use > this fallback feat

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2012-02-14 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: > >> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: > >> > On Mon, 2 May 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: > >> >> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Ian Hickso

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2011-08-02 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 1:30 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote: > On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 15:20 -0700, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Aryeh Gregor >> wrote: >> > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: >> >>>

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2011-08-02 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 15:20 -0700, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Aryeh Gregor > wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: > >>> Looking specifically at 's ability to fall back to , I > >>>

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2011-08-01 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Jeremy Keith wrote: > The way that datalist is currently designed (and implemented) is exemplary. > The fact that (by design) it allows authors to nest a select element within > it that shares the same option elements means that authors can safely begin > to us

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2011-07-31 Thread Jeremy Keith
The way that datalist is currently designed (and implemented) is exemplary. The fact that (by design) it allows authors to nest a select element within it that shares the same option elements means that authors can safely begin to use this new feature. I've written more about it here: http://ad

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2011-07-29 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:20:59 -0700, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> >> Ah, well, then it definitely seems like we should get rid of this >> feature. The harm is definitely there in that it's adding a feature >> without solving any problem. >> >>

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2011-07-29 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:20:59 -0700, Jonas Sicking wrote: Ah, well, then it definitely seems like we should get rid of this feature. The harm is definitely there in that it's adding a feature without solving any problem. For what it's worth, I'm not even convinced there is a problem. The website

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2011-07-29 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Aryeh Gregor wrote: > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: >>> Looking specifically at 's ability to fall back to , I >>> agree that it's not necessarily doing to be widely used, but given th

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2011-07-29 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: >> Looking specifically at 's ability to fall back to , I >> agree that it's not necessarily doing to be widely used, but given that >> it's so simple to support and provides such a clean w

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2011-07-29 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: >> > On Mon, 2 May 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> >> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: >> >> > >> >> > in a is completely ignor

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2011-07-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: > > On Mon, 2 May 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: > >> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: > >> > > >> > in a is completely ignored for form submission. In > >> > fact, any form element at

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2011-07-29 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: > On Mon, 2 May 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: >> > >> > in a is completely ignored for form submission. In >> > fact, any form element at all in is ignored for form >> > submission. See the "

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2011-07-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 2 May 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: > > > > in a is completely ignored for form submission. In > > fact, any form element at all in is ignored for form > > submission. See the "construct the form data set" algorithm: > > > > http://www

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2011-05-02 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: > On Fri, 31 Dec 2010, Mounir Lamouri wrote: >> On 12/31/2010 03:20 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: >> > On Fri, 24 Sep 2010, Mounir Lamouri wrote: >> >> >> >> I agree that a child of a datalist element should not block the form >> >> submission. However,

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2011-05-02 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010, Mounir Lamouri wrote: > On 12/31/2010 03:20 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: > > On Fri, 24 Sep 2010, Mounir Lamouri wrote: > >> > >> I agree that a child of a datalist element should not block the form > >> submission. However, I'm wondering why do we care about this > >> particular e

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2010-12-31 Thread Mounir Lamouri
On 12/31/2010 03:20 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: > On Fri, 24 Sep 2010, Mounir Lamouri wrote: >> >> I agree that a child of a datalist element should not block the form >> submission. However, I'm wondering why do we care about this particular >> edge case when there are a lot of situations where an el

Re: [whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2010-12-30 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 24 Sep 2010, Mounir Lamouri wrote: > > I agree that a child of a datalist element should not block the form > submission. However, I'm wondering why do we care about this particular > edge case when there are a lot of situations where an element can be > invalid without any possible act

[whatwg] Why children of datalist elements are barred from constraint validation?

2010-09-24 Thread Mounir Lamouri
Hi, I agree that a child of a datalist element should not block the form submission. However, I'm wondering why do we care about this particular edge case when there are a lot of situations where an element can be invalid without any possible action from the user. If there is no specific use case