[Wien] Problems in convergence due to application of mBj potential

2012-08-30 Thread Peter Blaha
Once again: Do you mean MSR1 or MSR1a The little "a" makes a big difference and you can only compare PRATT and MSR1 for mBJ, but not MSR1a. Of course, a second try could be to use MSR1a and mBJ (without SO) and check how much the structure changes. > performance of MRS1a and PRATT when us

[Wien] Problems in convergence due to application of mBj potential

2012-08-30 Thread Luis Carlos Ogando Dacal
Dear Prof. Blaha, Marks and WIEN2k community, I will try the second option ("to use MSR1a and mBJ (without SO) and check how much the structure changes"). As soon as possible, I will report the results. All the best, Luis 2012/8/30 Laurence Marks : > I think using

[Wien] Problems in convergence due to application of mBj potential

2012-08-30 Thread Luis Carlos Ogando Dacal
Dear Prof. Blaha, Actually, in the MRS1a-mBJ calculation I used a case.struct previously relaxed with MSCE-PBE. My intention was just to compare the performance of MRS1a and PRATT when using mBJ in the band structure calculation (as described in section 4.5.9 of the WIEN_12 Users Guide). So, I

[Wien] Problems in convergence due to application of mBj potential

2012-08-30 Thread Laurence Marks
I think using mBJ and MSR1a is the idea -- is it valid/better compared to just mBJ with PBE refined positions? I think it might be, but it is hard to say. And, of course, without -so. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Peter Blaha wrote: > Once again: > > Do you mean MSR1 or MSR1a The little

[Wien] Problems in convergence due to application of mBj potential

2012-08-30 Thread Peter Blaha
For sure, forces are NOT ok when you switch on spin-orbit coupling. But please: think about the physics: InP is not that heavy and is a semiconductor. You do NOT need SO for any structural relaxation as it has negligible effects anyway. (However, you may NEED SO for bandstructure properties, effec

[Wien] Problems in convergence due to application of mBj potential

2012-08-29 Thread Luis Carlos Ogando Dacal
Dear Prof. Laurence Marks, Let me answer you using your previous message. > First, a reminder. Using MSR1a with mBJ is a computational experiment. > It may not give reasonable results, or it might -- I do not know and I > am not sure that anyone does, yet. The "standard" method is not to > var

[Wien] Problems in convergence due to application of mBj potential

2012-08-29 Thread Luis Carlos Ogando Dacal
Dear Prof. Laurence Marks (and WIEN2k users), I would like to report my recent experience in using MSR1a with mBJ. I have a semiconductor system composed by In and P atoms that I relaxed using PBE. After that, I tried the mBJ SCF cycle using PRATT as recommended in section 4.5.9 of the WIEN Use

[Wien] Problems in convergence due to application of mBj potential

2012-08-29 Thread Laurence Marks
First, a reminder. Using MSR1a with mBJ is a computational experiment. It may not give reasonable results, or it might -- I do not know and I am not sure that anyone does, yet. The "standard" method is not to vary the atomic positions with mBJ, but this may not be optimal. One thing to check, in y

[Wien] Problems in convergence due to application of mBj potential

2012-08-22 Thread Madhav Ghimire
Dear Prof. Marks, Thank you very much for replying immediately. I was just replying to your post. As in userguide of wien2k, it is suggested to edit the case.inm and change MSR1a with PRATT as MSR1a leads to convergence problems in mBj. Hence, I performed the calculations by changing MSR1a with

[Wien] Problems in convergence due to application of mBj potential

2012-08-22 Thread Madhav Ghimire
Dear Prof. Blaha, I have changed the PRATT with a mixing factor between 0.2-0.5 in case.inm not as small as you suggest. Thanks for this new information. I will try the suggested value and see what happens. Thanks Madhav On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Peter Blaha wrote: > It looks as if the mB

[Wien] Problems in convergence due to application of mBj potential

2012-08-22 Thread Madhav Ghimire
Dear wien users and developers, I am working on some 3d TM oxides. With a normal scf cycle with or without inclusion of U value, I got good convergence in energy and charge. This oxide material is reported to have a bandgap of approx. 0.3 eV. In GGA, I do not observe any gap. In the meantime e

[Wien] Problems in convergence due to application of mBj potential

2012-08-22 Thread Laurence Marks
I am sure Peter had a typo - I think he meant MSR1 not MSR1a. Whether MSR1a is a good idea with mBJ is currently unclear; there was a recent discussion of this, look in the email archives. A good topic where readers of this list could contribute is testing whether MSR1a with mBJ is physically reas

[Wien] Problems in convergence due to application of mBj potential

2012-08-22 Thread Kateryna Foyevtsova
No gap with high U reminds me the situation that I've observed in an oxide with orbital degeneracy. Eventually, I had to lower the unit cell symmetry to allow for some orbital order which also opened a gap at U value adequate for that system. So, maybe, that is the problem in your case too. What

[Wien] Problems in convergence due to application of mBj potential

2012-08-22 Thread Laurence Marks
A Pratt greed of 0.5 or 0.2 will in general be very, very, very unstable. 0.03 may be too small. After a few Pratt cycles let MSR1 take over with a greed of 0.1 if you want to be conservative. --- Professor Laurence Marks Department of Materials Science and Engineering Nor

[Wien] Problems in convergence due to application of mBj potential

2012-08-22 Thread Peter Blaha
It looks as if the mBJ calculation has completely crashed. "Constant" tests are "unusual" and point to some other problem which you overlooked. restore_lapw gga_calc runsp -i 1(with GGA) (because you need good vsp and vresp files) change to mBJ in case.in0; rm *.bro* what did you set in case.i

[Wien] Problems in convergence due to application of mBj potential

2012-08-22 Thread Laurence Marks
Can you send the case.scf file to me directly? I am curious why MSR1 does not converge well for some mBJ and there are some things printed in case.scfm which may explain. --- Professor Laurence Marks Department of Materials Science and Engineering Northwestern University ww