Re: [Wiki-research-l] Help to solve three doubts on Wikipedia research data

2010-04-11 Thread Luca de Alfaro
The first thing I proposed is innocuous (gathering stats on (revision_id, clicked_link)), and in fact can be done easily with a minimum of instrumentation. The second is very different from the AOL search data. The AOL search data was problematic because it associated data on a per-user basis, so

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Help to solve three doubts on Wikipedia research data

2010-04-11 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Luca de Alfaro wrote: > I guess that Wiki(pedia|media) could very well gather statistics on > > (revision_id, clicked_link) > > pairs without compromising the anonimity of the visitors. It would be very > useful to have indications on which hyperlinks are most us

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Help to solve three doubts on Wikipedia research data

2010-04-11 Thread Peter Ansell
The fact that there are only a few wikimedia personell who are able to access the information about browsing trails, and a few community representatives who can check the IP's for registered users doesn't mean Wikimedia doesn't spy. It spys heavily on editing, and then offers some of the informatio

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Help to solve three doubts on Wikipedia research data

2010-04-11 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Ziko van Dijk wrote: > Hello, > > Gregory (? if I remember well) mentioned in August 2009 this: > http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1446862 > All examined sites spy on their visitors, but Wikimedia and Wikipedia. It's possible to track click progr

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Help to solve three doubts on Wikipedia research data

2010-04-11 Thread Luca de Alfaro
I guess that Wiki(pedia|media) could very well gather statistics on (revision_id, clicked_link) pairs without compromising the anonimity of the visitors. It would be very useful to have indications on which hyperlinks are most useful. For example, I am always curious whether the large editorial

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Help to solve three doubts on Wikipedia research data

2010-04-11 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, Gregory (? if I remember well) mentioned in August 2009 this: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1446862 All examined sites spy on their visitors, but Wikimedia and Wikipedia. Kind regards Ziko 2010/4/11 Gregory Maxwell : > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Fuster, Mayo

[Wiki-research-l] RS: Help to solve three doubts on Wikipediaresearch data

2010-04-11 Thread Fuster, Mayo
Thank you Gregory. I didn't want to imply that the data should be public. But if Wikipedia system "learn" from the searchers and the navigation of the visitors. The reason why I am interested on this question is because I am discussing if and why even only using (without contributing) can be b

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Help to solve three doubts on Wikipedia research data

2010-04-11 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Fuster, Mayo wrote: > * Does the site learn from the navigation and searches? That is, if a > Wikipedia visitor who reads a Network entry then goes to the Manuel Castells > entry, Will the system understand there is a connexion between them? Will > next time put t

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Help to solve three doubts on Wikipedia research data

2010-04-11 Thread James Howison
Seems like some of these questions seem like they need data not just on revisions, but on web visitors, and click stream patterns. Does the foundation collect or make web access data available? --J On Apr 11, 2010, at 17:14, Luca de Alfaro wrote: > Hi Mayo, > > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 9:06 AM

[Wiki-research-l] RS: Help to solve three doubts on Wikipediaresearch data

2010-04-11 Thread Fuster, Mayo
Thank you Luca! Unfortunately I do not have programming skills. I am looking for research results or data already available on these questions to make a reference in my research writing. Thanks again. Have a nice day, Mayo «·´`·.(*·.¸(`·.¸ ¸.·´)¸.·*).·´`·» «·´¨*·¸¸« Mayo Fuster Morell ».¸.·*¨`·»

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Help to solve three doubts on Wikipedia research data

2010-04-11 Thread Luca de Alfaro
Hi Mayo, On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Fuster, Mayo wrote: > Hi everybody! > > How are you? I hope happy and fine. I am Mayo Fuster Morell doing a Phd > research on Wikipedia governance at the European University Institute. > > I would appreciate if you could help me with three specific doub

[Wiki-research-l] Help to solve three doubts on Wikipedia research data

2010-04-11 Thread Fuster, Mayo
Hi everybody! How are you? I hope happy and fine. I am Mayo Fuster Morell doing a Phd research on Wikipedia governance at the European University Institute. I would appreciate if you could help me with three specific doubts that I have on Wikipedia data. * Is there data or research results on