Re: [Wiki-research-l] sockpuppets and how to find them sooner

2019-08-23 Thread Timothy Wood
Then again, apparently the Foundation has a PR team whose only job is to compile the latest marketing buzzwords, and they seem to really love AI. You might get some buy in. Never know. V/r TJW/GMG On Fri, Aug 23, 2019, 11:23 Kerry Raymond wrote: > That's why I think we need "signatures" which

Re: [Wiki-research-l] gender balance of wikipedia citations

2019-08-23 Thread Kerry Raymond
Hmm. I get the error that the mailing list doesn't exist. But if you write here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:WikiCite someone should be able to point you in the right direction. There has been activity there within the last month. Kerry -Original Message- From: Wiki-research-l

Re: [Wiki-research-l] gender balance of wikipedia citations

2019-08-23 Thread Greg
Hi all- One more thing: on twitter, I was advised that this list and the wikicite google group were the best places to discuss research around citations. Although I would like to post about this line of inquiry to the wikicite group, it appears to be a private group. As an outsider, I have not

Re: [Wiki-research-l] sockpuppets and how to find them sooner

2019-08-23 Thread Kerry Raymond
That's why I think we need "signatures" which is my shorthand for things like a hash function or a bounding box, a means by which many non-matching accounts can be eliminated at low cost, reserving the high cost comparisons (machine or human) only for high probability candidates. It is

Re: [Wiki-research-l] sockpuppets and how to find them sooner

2019-08-23 Thread Aaron Halfaker
I think embeddings[1] would be a nice way to create a signature. Essentially, we could dump data about a person's activities into it (words added, namespaces edited, time of day of edits, temporal frequency of editing, # of revisions per session, frequency of citation by type, etc.) and get a

Re: [Wiki-research-l] sockpuppets and how to find them sooner

2019-08-23 Thread Timothy Wood
You are correct that in all but the most obvious cases, filing an SPI can be exceptionally time consuming. I'm afraid there is no obvious technical solution there that would not involve a complicated AI that is probably beyond the ability of the foundation to produce. There is quite a bit of data

Re: [Wiki-research-l] gender balance of wikipedia citations

2019-08-23 Thread Greg
Wow, Kerry! Thank you for taking the time to write all these thoughts out. I'm asking the question because I'm concerned that the gender balance of the authors being cited on wikipedia is different from the already quite bad patterns in academia. My fear is that the citation gender imbalance on

Re: [Wiki-research-l] sockpuppets and how to find them sooner

2019-08-23 Thread RhinosF1
Just a note that you can still go through warnings for vandalism etc. and report to AIV. Or at that edit speed, you may have a chance at AN at reporting for bot-like edits which will draw attention to the account. If you ever need help, things like #wikipedia-en-help on Freenode IRC exist so you

Re: [Wiki-research-l] sockpuppets and how to find them sooner

2019-08-23 Thread Kerry Raymond
To reply to my own question . Can we find a way to create a "signature" of an account's pattern of editing? Perhaps it might be a set of signatures, maybe one for the categories that the account appears to be active in, another for the type of edit, etc. Then if these signatures were