Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Wikimedia-l] "Can Wikipedia save the internet?": Wikipedia and political neutrality

2016-11-02 Thread FRED BAUDER
Thanks! Craig Newmark founder, craigslist On Nov 2, 2016 12:44 PM, "FRED BAUDER" wrote: Craig, I don't expect you to do anything about it, but Hillary Clinton presidential campaign, 2016 has been so much an object of political editing by Clinton supporters that it looks more l

Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Wikimedia-l] "Can Wikipedia save the internet?": Wikipedia and political neutrality

2016-11-02 Thread FRED BAUDER
after people have recovered from the election. How about...reminding me two weeks from today. I might've recovered by then, seriously... Thanks! Craig Newmark founder, craigslist On Nov 2, 2016 12:44 PM, "FRED BAUDER" <fredb...@fairpoint.net> wrote: Craig, I don't exp

Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Wikimedia-l] "Can Wikipedia save the internet?": Wikipedia and political neutrality

2016-11-02 Thread FRED BAUDER
Craig, I don't expect you to do anything about it, but Hillary Clinton presidential campaign, 2016 has been so much an object of political editing by Clinton supporters that it looks more like an ad for Hillary than a Wikipedia article. Fred Bauder On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 11:43:32 -0400 Craig

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Recruiting gamers to edit Wikimedia

2013-07-04 Thread Fred Bauder
There is resistance to including material with no published reliable source. They can also edit Wikia which is to a certain extent devoted to gaming. Fred I think there might be some resistance within the WP community to encouraging detailed game content in WP. There are plenty of other wikis

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Is Wikipedia a Relevant Model for E-Learning?

2013-04-27 Thread Fred Bauder
I've just started reading this, but a few thoughts right off: As every experiment it should be reproducible This is not possible because Wikipedia has a world-wide audience and is a top 10 website. No comparable can be expected to develop. Also, compared to using Wikipedia in junior high or

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Is Wikipedia a Relevant Model for E-Learning?

2013-04-27 Thread Fred Bauder
Truth is a relative virtue, that mostly depends on the effectivity of social procedures and norms. Wikipedia makes no such claim; only that it is a summary of generally accepted knowledge. Fred Hello, I have already discussed this work on the mailing list two months ago. You may now find the

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Is Wikipedia a Relevant Model for E-Learning?

2013-04-27 Thread Fred Bauder
meaning is not the product of a one-sided teaching, but of a dialogical exchange between two seemingly equal human consciousness Again, we do not aspire to meaning nor to dialog only to consensus regarding the corpus of generally-accepted information. Even calling it knowledge is a stretch. It is

Re: [Wiki-research-l] real scholarship is expensive

2012-05-22 Thread Fred Bauder
We have about as much talent and personnel as one journal. And an operation of about the same order of magnitude. Fred There seems to be a great deal of misunderstanding among Wikipedians how academe actually works. Piotr thinks a grad student can produce a scholarly journal. Look at history.

Re: [Wiki-research-l] real scholarship is expensive

2012-05-22 Thread Fred Bauder
Piotr says Let me repeat: editors, authors and reviewers are not paid That's completely false. They are all paid professional salaries by their home universities, and the kind of work they do is counted in terms of getting jobs, promotions, pay raises and tenure. Furthermore for the

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Alexa ranking of Wikiversity

2011-05-31 Thread Fred Bauder
Thanks everyone! I knew that one should be careful with Alexa but I didn´t expect it could be THAT wrong. It´s a pity because otherwise it could be a convenient and interesting tool. The next question is: is this rather an exception or is Alexa in general not reliable? Maybe I shouldn´t use

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Alexa ranking of Wikiversity

2011-05-30 Thread Fred Bauder
Hi, I realized today that surprinsingly the Russian Wikiversity is better ranked by Alexa than the English version (ru.wikiversity.org = 53.66% of wikiveritsy.org´s traffic, en.wikiversity.org only 33.28%). The description says: (...) it is relatively popular among users in the city of

Re: [Wiki-research-l] my ph. d. -- still formulating a research question

2010-11-23 Thread Fred Bauder
amateur editors, although they may be enrolled in sophomore mathematics classes. A good textbook, or Wikipedia article requires a skilled teacher who can gradually introduce the reader to the concepts, and jargon of mathematics. Fred Bauder So far, the best phrasing I've come up with is: What

Re: [Wiki-research-l] research on watchlist behaviors?

2010-07-01 Thread Fred Bauder
, essentially whackamole. Investment in articles varies greatly. Fred Bauder Hi all, I'm working on a study for which I'd like to know more about editors' watchlisting practices. Of course what I'd really like is to know who had what page on their watchlist when, but I understand the obvious

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wikipedia Research policy (now accepted)

2010-04-08 Thread Fred Bauder
The point is well taken that the proposal was not that well advertised and I still haven't found a link to the RFC. Fred Bauder On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Piotr Konieczny pio...@post.pl wrote: Bryan Song wrote: The Wikipedia:Research policy on subject recruitment on Wikipedia has made