Re: [Wiki-research-l] Help us understand ORES and make good tradeoffs

2018-12-15 Thread WereSpielChequers
I agree that we very rarely misidentify vandalism. Where there is a dichotomy between quality and openness is in our handling of new unsourced content. There are no easy solutions here, but I would acknowledge both that a significant proportion of new unsourced content is good faith, and also that

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Help us understand ORES and make good tradeoffs

2018-12-14 Thread Bowen Yu
Thank you all for your interests and comments! I've made connections with individuals for more discussion. Please feel free to contact me if you have any thoughts. On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 11:09 AM Aaron Halfaker wrote: > Thank you Ofer! > > I'm sure Bowen would be interested in the needs/values

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Help us understand ORES and make good tradeoffs

2018-12-14 Thread Aaron Halfaker
Thank you Ofer! I'm sure Bowen would be interested in the needs/values you bring to ORES. FWIW, we on the Scoring Platform team consider Researchers to be legitimate users of ORES. On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 12:18 AM Ofer Arazy wrote: > Hi Bowen, > > I've used ORES in my research on the factors dr

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Help us understand ORES and make good tradeoffs

2018-12-13 Thread Ofer Arazy
Hi Bowen, I've used ORES in my research on the factors driving article quality (where ORES scores are used as a proxy for article quality). If you are seeking input from the research community, I'm happy to participate in your survey Ofer On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 5:08 PM Bowen Yu wrote: > Hel

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Help us understand ORES and make good tradeoffs

2018-12-13 Thread Pine W
Hi Bowen, after reading your project proposal I have a few questions and concerns. You mention a perceived tension between protecting newcomers and protecting the quality of content. I am wondering whether that is a false dichotomy. In my experience, test edits and blatant vandalism usually look d

[Wiki-research-l] Help us understand ORES and make good tradeoffs

2018-12-13 Thread Bowen Yu
Hello, ORES has been out and served for the Wikipedia community for a while, for the purpose such as counter-vandalism. Having seen the wide usage and effectiveness of ORES in the community, we'd like to continue working on ORES development. We plan to improve and redesign ORES algorithms by incor