On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 2:49 AM, Kerry Raymond
wrote:
> No right to be offended? To say to someone "you don't have the right to be
> offended" seems pretty offensive in itself. It seems to imply that their
> cultural norms are somehow inferior or unacceptable.
>
I'm not sure that I worded my com
I would be interested to see how much of the offence and how many of the
attacks are in Wikipedias known and usually obvious stress areas.
Wikipedia tries to neutrally cover every topic that would be considered
controversial in real life, and it also brings together people from diverse
parts of
No right to be offended? To say to someone "you don't have the right to be
offended" seems pretty offensive in itself. It seems to imply that their
cultural norms are somehow inferior or unacceptable.
With the global reach of Wikipedia, there are obviously many points of view on
what is or isn
Kerry, I think that I agree with you. Awhile back, my impression from
English Wikipedia arbitration pages was that there is a relatively small
number of users who stir up trouble repeatedly and are sometimes sanctioned
but rarely blocked. I don't want to speak for the Arbitration Committee,
and sin
>but that
doesn't necessarily mean that we should use policy and admin tools instead
of persuasion and other tools (such as content policies about verifiability
and notability) to address them
...
>I had an
experience myself when I made a statement to someone which from my
perspective was a statem
Research-l
Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Analytics] Wikipedia Detox: Scaling up our
understanding of harassment on Wikipedia
I'm glad that work on detecting and addressing harassment are moving forward.
At the same time, I'd appreciate getting a more precise understanding of how
Hi Pine,
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 2:03 AM, Pine W wrote:
>
> At the same time, I'd appreciate getting a more precise understanding of
> how WMF is defining the word "harassment".
>
This is a policy question and wiki-research-l and analytics mailing lists
are not the best place to discuss it. (I
I'm glad that work on detecting and addressing harassment are moving
forward.
At the same time, I'd appreciate getting a more precise understanding of
how WMF is defining the word "harassment". There are legal definitions and
dictionary definitions, but I don't think that there is One Definition t
Hi Dan,
Thanks for your note. :)
On the Research end, Dario is still a big supporter of the efforts
around research to help us better understand harassment (as you
noticed in our commitments to the annual plan) and with Ellery's
departure, I've been helping him a bit to make sure we can move
forw
Hi Dan -- we are actually in touch with Detox as part of the Community
Health initiative. They are doing their first quarterly check in this
quarter so expect some updates then. Ping me offlist if you want more info.
-Toby
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Dan Andreescu
wrote:
> I'm reflecting
I'm reflecting on this work and how awesome it was. I see that it's
continued in our annual plan under the Community Health Initiative, but I
am afraid it's taking a secondary role without Ellery and others to drive
it. On
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_health_initiative/AbuseFilter
it
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