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--- Comment #55 from Brion Vibber 2009-03-05 01:13:01
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Please don't use Bugzilla as a chat forum. :) Commit setups are reached in
batches. Patches can be applied by any developer at any time.
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--- Comment #54 from Aryeh Gregor 2009-03-03
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He says it's on his list and he'll get to it. You'll have to wait a while
longer, I guess, or else be more aggressive in pestering people on IRC.
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--- Comment #53 from rememberthe...@gmail.com 2009-03-03 19:16:04 UTC ---
After four e-mails to Brion and one e-mail to Tim, I still have not been given
commit access. What do you suggest?
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--- Comment #52 from Aryeh Gregor 2009-02-17
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I asked Brion on IRC, he says he's now sent you a reply asking for account
details.
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--- Comment #51 from rememberthe...@gmail.com 2009-02-17 18:24:11 UTC ---
I e-mailed Brion two weeks ago and Tim a week ago asking for commit access.
Neither has replied. Would you be willing to commit the patch?
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--- Comment #50 from Aryeh Gregor 2009-02-01
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> I haven't asked for commit access; I figured that if the developers thought I
> should have access, they'd offer it ;-).
To the extent that that's h
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--- Comment #48 from Aryeh Gregor 2009-02-01
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1) The proposed patch will fail in IE6, which does not support the [attr=val]
selector. If use of advanced selectors were possible, incidentally, :lang()
would almost certainly
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--- Comment #46 from rememberthe...@gmail.com 2009-01-11 01:31:04 UTC ---
And by "no matter the language" I meant "no matter the content language if the
user language is German".
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--- Comment #45 from rememberthe...@gmail.com 2009-01-11 01:28:57 UTC ---
Never mind, forget the patch. I just realized that it breaks the Modern skin
and there's no way around that.
Perhaps the best thing to do would be to offer a userLang
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Ah, I see now. You have a good point. Here is a patch I
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--- Comment #43 from Aryeh Gregor 2009-01-11
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> I would really
> like to see a "uselang-de" class (or even a MediaWiki:Monobook.css/de message)
> that could be used to turn off the transformations
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> There is a [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css/de]], but it doesn't get used (as only
> [[MediaWiki:Monobook
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There is a [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css/de]], but it doesn't get used (as only
[[MediaWiki:Monobook.css]] is used); but maybe .../de could be imported
surplus?
See comment #20:
> So
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--- Comment #40 from rememberthe...@gmail.com 2009-01-10 03:44:02 UTC ---
[[MediaWiki:Edit]], [[MediaWiki:Navigation]] etc. affect all skins, so making
them lowercase would make the text lowercase even on skins where uppercase text
is more a
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--- Comment #39 from Melancholie 2009-01-10 03:26:29
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> adjectives->verbs (me fool ;-)
sorry for spamming, unfortunately it's no wiki
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--- Comment #38 from Melancholie 2009-01-10 03:22:12
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"Wiktionary:Hauptseite" had been a bad example (no adjectives ;-)
[[wikt:de:example]] is a better one, showing at least "bearbeiten" (if logged
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--- Comment #37 from Melancholie 2009-01-10 03:18:18
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Note that those words that will be shown capitalized can easily be lowercased
again by editing [[MediaWiki:Edit]], [[MediaWiki:Navigation]] etc. See
[[wikt:de:Wiktionary:Hauptsei
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--- Comment #36 from Brion Vibber 2009-01-09 18:37:52
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In the community! Tell your friends, tell your mom, tell your blog, whoever. :)
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--- Comment #35 from Aryeh Gregor 2009-01-09
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Float where?
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--- Comment #31 from rememberthe...@gmail.com 2009-01-09 09:07:04 UTC ---
XHTML errors can cause tools that parse sites like XML to blow up. We don't
want invisible problems suddenly flaring up in odd places.
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--- Comment #30 from Melancholie 2009-01-09 07:53:47
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Äh, XHTML of course. But my opinion is that visible issues are more important
than invisible/un-severe ones. A (soon) proper solution would be the best
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--- Comment #29 from rememberthe...@gmail.com 2009-01-09 07:49:46 UTC ---
It's not a CSS invalidity, it's an XHTML invalidity, and I'm poring over the
MediaWiki source code right now trying to figure out where MediaWiki:Navigation
is actuall
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--- Comment #28 from Melancholie 2009-01-09 07:43:18
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Note that this is only a ridiculous 'nested elements ' error, only shown if a
user has specified 'de' as his/her UI language. Is it really necessary to
revert this? CSS invalidit
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--- Comment #27 from rememberthe...@gmail.com 2009-01-09 07:01:56 UTC ---
Not fine, now Meta is using invalid XHTML:
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--- Comment #26 from Melancholie 2009-01-09 04:54:18
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Just to drop a note [to be aware of]:
As Meta and Commons are *the* major multilingual community wikis, the CSS
workaround from above has been placed into [[meta:MediaWiki:Naviga
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--- Comment #25 from TM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2008-12-10 16:40:57 UTC ---
>From my point of view:
Fact: A skin MUST be independent from the language.
Fact: Changing text to lower case is NOT independent from the language.
Conclusion: Remove
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Forget my last posts, changes have been reverted altogether, broadly.
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Silly question: Why is .portlet h6 defined, actually?
There are no H6 portlet headings!?
Or do some extensions use h6 portlet headings?
If MediaWiki really do
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Fixed that issue with that workaround also for:
* de-formal
* gsw
* bar
* pfl
* nds
* lb
* ksh
* pdc
* pdt
ang (and probably others) has a text-tranform:none
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Note: Do not @import [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css/de]] in
[[MediaWiki:Navigation/de]] (that would break other skins for example)
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--- Comment #19 from TM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2008-12-09 16:59:16 UTC ---
As I said in comment #5, changing case is NOT just a stylistic effect. It
changes the MEANING of the words in many languages!
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--- Comment #18 from Aryeh Gregor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2008-12-09 14:25:46 UTC
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> So why won't we do it?
For my part, comment #7.
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--- Comment #17 from Danny B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2008-12-09 13:18:37 UTC ---
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> Personally, I think the best solution might be to get rid of the
> text-transform
> rule for all languages. It's not worth the troubl
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--- Comment #16 from Aryeh Gregor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2008-12-08 23:02:42 UTC
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> I tried something very similar using :lang, but it only worked if the wiki's
> language was German. So, it would have worked on th
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For the record, after creating a minor mess at Betawiki I discovered that
[[MediaWiki:Navigation]] is the _only_ message that both has this problem and
allows HTML in its mes
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--- Comment #12 from Aryeh Gregor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2008-12-08 14:15:33 UTC
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> Couldn't we wrap [[MediaWiki:Navigation/de]] in style="text-transform:none">? That way uselang=de would work in wikis of any
> la
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Partial solution may be adding of something like
html[lang="de"] #p-navigation h5
{
text-transform: none;
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or even
html[lang="de"] #column-one h5
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t
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