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--- Comment #34 from Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org 2009-09-21 19:02:21
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Image/file renaming ('movefile' permission) is currently enabled for sysop
group, but not for regular users. Do we want to open it to autoconfirmed or
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Bug 15842 depends on bug 18033, which changed state.
Bug 18033 Summary: File moving error
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--- Comment #10 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2009-03-19
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Why would anyone remove the redirect? Commons had better be smart enough not
to do that on a regular basis. It will break *everyone*'s sites,
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--- Comment #11 from Mike.lifeguard mikelifegu...@fastmail.fm 2009-03-19
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Deleting file redirects is probably not high on the list of tasks Commons
sysops will be doing.
(In reply to comment #9)
I suspect that this will
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--- Comment #12 from Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org 2009-03-19 18:09:41
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Why would it be stupid to assume that a file can continue to be accessed by the
same name in the future?
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--- Comment #13 from ChrisiPK chris...@gmail.com 2009-03-19 18:26:17 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #12)
Why would it be stupid to assume that a file can continue to be accessed by
the
same name in the future?
Because file names are
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--- Comment #14 from Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org 2009-03-19 18:29:37
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Patterns aren't at issue. Not fucking people over by removing existing files is
at issue.
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--- Comment #15 from Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org 2009-03-19 18:30:47
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Note I will desysop anyone I see removing redirects without a very good reason
-- it's extremely user-hostile and makes the project less useful.
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--- Comment #18 from ChrisiPK chris...@gmail.com 2009-03-19 18:40:34 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #17)
(In reply to comment #16)
(In reply to comment #14)
Patterns aren't at issue. Not fucking people over by removing existing
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--- Comment #19 from ^demon innocentkil...@gmail.com 2009-03-19 18:44:21 UTC
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Or make your tools work better and take account for redirects? Redirects are a
basic functional aspect of MW designed to aid in user-friendliness. Refusing
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--- Comment #20 from Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org 2009-03-19 18:46:07
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If they have basic experience with MediaWiki, they will have a look at the
deletion log and find the correct file name. If they
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--- Comment #21 from ChrisiPK chris...@gmail.com 2009-03-19 18:58:24 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #20)
(In reply to comment #18)
If they have basic experience with MediaWiki, they will have a look at the
deletion log and find the
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--- Comment #23 from Raimond Spekking raimond.spekk...@gmail.com 2009-03-19
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May I point to the long existing but untested/unreviewed extension
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GlobalUsage ?
Could solve the
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--- Comment #22 from Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org 2009-03-19 19:16:30
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Summary of problem: Third-party CheckUsage tool has limited functionality, and
doesn't currently handle a lot of things well including image redirects.
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--- Comment #24 from Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org 2009-03-19 19:23:52
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May I point to the long existing but untested/unreviewed extension
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GlobalUsage ?
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--- Comment #25 from ChrisiPK chris...@gmail.com 2009-03-19 20:00:26 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #22)
Summary of problem: Third-party CheckUsage tool has limited functionality, and
doesn't currently handle a lot of things well including
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--- Comment #26 from Victor Vasiliev vasi...@gmail.com 2009-03-19 20:20:51
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Not only that, I also mentioned redirects giving more opportunities for vandal
attacks. How should we take care of those? Also
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--- Comment #27 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2009-03-19
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Not only that, I also mentioned redirects giving more opportunities for vandal
attacks. How should we take care of
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--- Comment #28 from Platonides platoni...@gmail.com 2009-03-19 21:17:24 UTC
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Images are moved at commons.
When an image is moved, there's a bot which fixes the use on all projects.
Where's the problem?
ThomasV noted a potential
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--- Comment #29 from ^demon innocentkil...@gmail.com 2009-03-19 21:18:51 UTC
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And are there ways to find redirects which are breaking
because the software won't follow the complete chain?
Ideally,
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--- Comment #30 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2009-03-19
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(In reply to comment #28)
Images are moved at commons.
When an image is moved, there's a bot which fixes the use on all projects.
Where's the
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--- Comment #31 from Platonides platoni...@gmail.com 2009-03-19 21:40:58 UTC
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The problem is that non-Wikimedia projects also use images from Commons, and
the bot will not fix them.
No. The problem is that
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--- Comment #32 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2009-03-19
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You mean, like, . . . by allowing image redirects? No links should have to be
changed. The old links should work forever unless there's some
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--- Comment #33 from Mike.lifeguard mikelifegu...@fastmail.fm 2009-03-19
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GUYS! This is not what the bug is about is not helpful to anyone in any way.
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Bug 15842 depends on bug 15574, which changed state.
Bug 15574 Summary: Uploading over moved images spams upload history with
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--- Comment #2 from MZMcBride pub...@mzmcbride.com 2008-12-29 20:20:34 UTC
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*** Bug 16834 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
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--- Comment #3 from MZMcBride pub...@mzmcbride.com 2008-12-29 20:21:11 UTC
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Comment from Victor Vasiliev at bug 16834:
Please enable image moving on all Wikimedia projects since it's pretty stable
now.
I've done some testing:
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--- Comment #4 from RĂ©mi Kaupp le.korri...@gmail.com 2008-12-29 20:35:02 UTC
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How about the two bugs supposedly blocking this one? i.e. bug 15114 and bug
15574. Don't really know about them, just asking.
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