[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 Ryan Kaldari changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED Resolution|---

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #66 from Mark A. Hershberger --- (In reply to comment #65) > Given the deployment of Scribunto/Lua to all Wikimedia wikis, I'm inclined to > mark this bug as resolved/fixed. Agreed for all the reasons MZ gave. -- You are receivin

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #65 from MZMcBride --- Given the deployment of Scribunto/Lua to all Wikimedia wikis, I'm inclined to mark this bug as resolved/fixed. Certain pages such as [[wikt:a]] are still taking over 30 seconds to parse, however these individu

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 Andre Klapper changed: What|Removed |Added Whiteboard||aklapper-fixedbyLua? -- You are recei

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

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[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

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[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #62 from Project LibX 2012-11-17 21:54:53 UTC --- Thanks. At the URL you link to, there's talk about an existing API for metadata extraction. Is this true? We would be fine with an API, as long as it's REST so we can run it from

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #61 from Bawolff 2012-11-17 19:59:17 UTC --- There's conversation about the removal at [[template_talk:Citation/core]]. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this ma

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #60 from Mark A. Hershberger 2012-11-17 19:54:06 UTC --- (In reply to comment #59) > "We" (MW devs) didn't have > anything to do with the COinS metadata. Presumably when it gets re-added it > will be done by the Wikipedians, so you

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #59 from Bawolff 2012-11-17 19:42:33 UTC --- (In reply to comment #58) > So - "reimplement" here means that COinS will just show up again, or will you > provide metadata in a different format. > > If you provide again COinS, it wou

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #58 from Project LibX 2012-11-17 01:53:19 UTC --- So - "reimplement" here means that COinS will just show up again, or will you provide metadata in a different format. If you provide again COinS, it would be nice if you improved y

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #57 from Ryan Kaldari 2012-11-16 22:29:37 UTC --- The current plan is to deploy Scribunto to the production wikis in early 2013 (although I don't know personally if we are still on target for that). One of the first things that Scr

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #56 from Chad H. 2012-11-16 22:18:46 UTC --- (In reply to comment #55) > I'm familiar with Lua (the programming language), and googling Scribunto leads > to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto which, upon 10 second >

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #55 from Project LibX 2012-11-16 21:26:52 UTC --- I'm familiar with Lua (the programming language), and googling Scribunto leads to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto which, upon 10 second inspection, doesn't explain

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #54 from Chad H. 2012-11-16 21:10:16 UTC --- (In reply to comment #53) > In any event, consider doing something - if the performance of your template > structure is the issue, use other techniques. > We are doing something differe

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #53 from Project LibX 2012-11-16 20:57:16 UTC --- libx@gmail.com is backed by the LibX Team; I'm in charge of the technical aspects. LibX is no business - it's open source; though we have received federal grants to employ som

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #52 from p858snake 2012-11-16 19:15:51 UTC --- (In reply to comment #51) > So I read through this thread, and I'm amazed, to put it politely. > > There is a performance problem that affects only people logged into Wikipedia, > whic

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #51 from Project LibX 2012-11-16 14:15:16 UTC --- So I read through this thread, and I'm amazed, to put it politely. There is a performance problem that affects only people logged into Wikipedia, which has got to be a small percen

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #50 from Bawolff 2012-11-16 02:48:22 UTC --- (In reply to comment #49) > LibX (libx.org) is a COinS processor, used by over 200,000 users affiliated > with over 1,000 libraries worldwide. We link users to their OpenURL resolvers >

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 Project LibX changed: What|Removed |Added CC||libx@gmail.com --- Comment #49 from

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #48 from Ryan Kaldari 2012-11-13 01:40:01 UTC --- I also left a couple messages on the Arabic Wikipedia (in English unfortunately): http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8:%D8%A7%D

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #47 from Tim Starling 2012-11-13 00:38:26 UTC --- I've opened a discussion about the Wiktionary problem here: -- Configure bugmai

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 Andre Klapper changed: What|Removed |Added CC|ro...@wikimedia.org | --- Comment #46 from Andre Klapper 2

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 Ryan Kaldari changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|Highest |High --- Comment #45 from Ryan Kaldari

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #44 from Tim Starling 2012-11-12 22:31:40 UTC --- (In reply to comment #43) > Ryan: As you bumped this back to highest priority, is anybody working on this? > I'd like to have an assignee for this... Three members of the platform

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 Andre Klapper changed: What|Removed |Added CC||aklap...@wikimedia.org,

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #42 from Tim Starling 2012-11-12 03:51:43 UTC --- (In reply to comment #41) > Confirmed that it is no longer possible to edit the Gaddafi article without > parser timeout (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_Gaddafi). That makes 3

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 Ryan Kaldari changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|High|Highest --- Comment #41 from Ryan Kalda

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 Andre Klapper changed: What|Removed |Added CC||bardi_harbo...@yahoo.com.au --- Commen

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

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[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

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[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #37 from Ryan Kaldari 2012-11-04 08:49:34 UTC --- It seems that it is currently very difficult to edit http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/a due to this bug. It typically times out when trying to save. Here is the report for the page: P

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 Bugmeister Bot changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED CC|john.n...

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 Mark A. Hershberger changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED CC|b...

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

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[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

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[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 Tim Starling changed: What|Removed |Added CC||tstarl...@wikimedia.org --- Comment #36

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 Rob Lanphier changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||platformeng Priority|Highest

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #35 from Rob Lanphier 2011-09-07 05:04:38 UTC --- Here's what I'm saying: current performance is too slow. We know it's too slow, and we have at least a couple initiatives that should make things significantly faster, along with

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #34 from Ryan Kaldari 2011-09-04 20:59:59 UTC --- Well, it seems Rob's comments have muddied the waters a bit. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Rob seems to be saying that no matter how much effort the developers put into back-end perf

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 Roan Kattouw changed: What|Removed |Added CC||roan.katt...@gmail.com --- Comment #33

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #32 from j.mccra...@comcast.net 2011-09-03 02:43:50 UTC --- But when it takes 35+ seconds to load a page, performance does matter! Many readers are not going to wait that long and will miss the content. And when it takes 2 minutes

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #31 from MZMcBride 2011-09-03 02:34:02 UTC --- (In reply to comment #29) > In fact, there's an entire essay on en.wiki: "Wikipedia:Don't worry about > performance" > > Clearly this mindset is now outdated. Perhaps you or Brion coul

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #30 from j.mccra...@comcast.net 2011-09-02 23:16:57 UTC --- When I first posted this, it was taking 35 seconds or longer. It got worse. But I checked it today on IE and Firefox and it was fast - about 2 seconds. Has something been

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #29 from Ryan Kaldari 2011-09-02 21:52:44 UTC --- Thanks for the enlightening post Rob. If template complexity is really to blame, we need to make a concerted effort to communicate this to the community. For the past several years

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #28 from Rob Lanphier 2011-09-02 20:58:25 UTC --- This isn't really a single issue. Every page is going to have a different specific reason for taking a long time to load. Generally, the problem will be some combination of the fo

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 Mark A. Hershberger changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|Normal |Highest -- Configure bugmail: h

[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 Ryan Kaldari changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|Pages with a high number of |Pages with a high number of