https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55866
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Bug ID: 55866
Summary: Moved pages don't appear in new pages
Product: MediaWiki
Version: unspecified
Hardware: All
OS: All
Status: NEW
Severity: major
Priority: Unprioritized
Component: Patrolling
Assignee: wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Reporter: wikif...@gmail.com
CC: krinklem...@gmail.com, roan.katt...@gmail.com
Classification: Unclassified
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I had posted this on Bug 36930, where people pointed me to Bug 12363, but
apparently there is some lack of clarity of what is the problem, what is the
relevant bug, and what is the wanted solution.
The problem is that moved pages (pages moved from any other namespace to the
main namespace) don't appear in any useful way
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:NewPagesFeed] nor at all in
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:NewPages]. The solution is that they
should appear in both, ''at the date and time of the move'', not on the date
and time of the original creation.
The reason is that these pages otherwise avoid 90% of the scrutiny other new
pages get, which gets exploited by PR companies, vandals, ... (see the 9
October Signpost on en-wiki).
Example (with no comment on the merits of the article intended): the article
[[Beatriz Barbuy]] was created 09:14, 16 October 2013 , and moved to the
mainspace 05:02, 18 October 2013
It doesn't appear in either of the NewPages special pages for 05:02 18 October.
On Special:NewPages, it (logically) doesn't appear on 09:14 16 October either.
On Special:NewPagesFeed, this is a lot harder to check You have to scroll
through two days, every time waiting for the feed to refresh (it took me a lot
more than 100 "scrolls" to reach the intended date and time)... Eventually, I
found it there. No one is going to do this, so because newly moved pages are
listed at the date of original creation, noone is going to see them until they
reach the bottom of the feed and become the "oldest" page, which isn't helpful
of course (currently, the oldest page in it is 156 days old...).
Please, this is a major bug, listed for years now under various guises, and the
one for NewPages is ot fixed, while the NewPagesFeed one incredibly has a
"WONTFIX" because "This would take a lot of effort for a small benefit. Marking
wontfix." No, this is not a "small benefit", this is closing a major loophole.
Please take this serious and fix this in both feeds.
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