[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords|community-consensus-needed, |

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #39 from Liangent liang...@gmail.com --- (In reply to comment #38) [Removing random added keywords, see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/editkeywords.cgi ] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/describekeywords.cgi The original link

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #40 from Eric e.martin...@verizon.net --- (In reply to comment #38) [Removing random added keywords, see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/editkeywords.cgi ] Sorry my addition of those keywords seemed random, Andre. It wasn't, but

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #41 from Michael Zajac mich...@zajac.ca --- (In reply to comment #37) I don’t completely agree with Eduard Brown. WikiMedia hosts an unusual multilingual range of websites on unusual multilingual software. Text in some languages

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #42 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com --- It would help if this bug identified the specific code revisions (Gerrit links) that are responsible for this recent regression. It would also help, for triaging, to know how many operating

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #43 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it --- (In reply to comment #42) It would also help, for triaging, to know how many operating systems/browsers are affected (or rather, what percentage of typical users)? Only Windows users? So

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #44 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org --- @Nemo: Thanks for comment 43, very helpful! @Erik: Could you clarify comment 36? Which other systems did you experience the problem with? (In reply to comment #42) It would help

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #45 from Eric e.martin...@verizon.net --- Created attachment 13822 -- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=13822action=edit language-choice text blurring on Commons screenshot of language-choice link text blurring,

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #46 from Eric e.martin...@verizon.net --- (In reply to comment #43) (In reply to comment #42) It would also help, for triaging, to know how many operating systems/browsers are affected (or rather, what percentage of typical

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #47 from Eric e.martin...@verizon.net --- (In reply to comment #44) @Nemo: Thanks for comment 43, very helpful! @Erik: Could you clarify comment 36? Which other systems did you experience the problem with? (In reply to

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #48 from Eric e.martin...@verizon.net --- (In reply to comment #47) (In reply to comment #44) @Nemo: Thanks for comment 43, very helpful! @Erik: Could you clarify comment 36? Which other systems did you experience the

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #49 from Eric e.martin...@verizon.net --- (In reply to comment #48) (In reply to comment #47) (In reply to comment #44) @Nemo: Thanks for comment 43, very helpful! @Erik: Could you clarify comment 36? Which other

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 Eric e.martin...@verizon.net changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords|

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 Eric e.martin...@verizon.net changed: What|Removed |Added Hardware|PC |All

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #34 from Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com --- Has there been any progress with this? What is the status? Is it supposed to be fixed? (Because it's not.) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #35 from Eric e.martin...@verizon.net --- Created attachment 13809 -- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=13809action=edit screenshot font-rendering, en.wp in Firefox 25, Win7 Similar to Autonym glyphs are missing

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #36 from Eric e.martin...@verizon.net --- Comment on attachment 13809 -- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=13809 screenshot font-rendering, en.wp in Firefox 25, Win7 Seeing problem in Commons as well in language

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 Eduard Braun eduard.bra...@gmx.de changed: What|Removed |Added CC|

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #30 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com --- What's the plan for this bug? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #31 from Siebrand Mazeland s.mazel...@xs4all.nl --- (In reply to comment #30) What's the plan for this bug? ULS master has hinting added for the Autnym font. This is active in the Wikimedia branch 1.23wmf3. -- You are receiving

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #32 from TMg mr.h...@gmx.de --- (In reply to comment #30) What's the plan for this bug? I wonder why you are asking this question. There is no plan. For the average Bugzilla report it's often like ignore it long enough to make the

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #33 from Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com --- (In reply to comment #31) ULS master has hinting added for the Autnym font. This is active in the Wikimedia branch 1.23wmf3. I see no difference. Do I need to do something?

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 Erwin Dokter er...@darcoury.nl changed: What|Removed |Added CC||er...@darcoury.nl ---

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 Nux e...@wp.pl changed: What|Removed |Added CC||e...@wp.pl --- Comment #26 from Nux

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #27 from Santhosh Thottingal santhosh.thottin...@gmail.com --- (In reply to comment #26) IE6? OK. Let's be serious. Majority of other users INCLUDING users of IE6 are served with a bad font. IE 6(or anything less) will not get

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #28 from Santhosh Thottingal santhosh.thottin...@gmail.com --- (In reply to comment #0) Created attachment 13624 [details] Blurred Autonym font Interwiki names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #18 from Seb35 seb35wikipe...@gmail.com --- As suggested by TMg (comment #6), is it not possible to let the browser choose the Autonym font only if there are missing glyphs? I’m not very knowledgeable about the details, but I know

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #19 from TMg mr.h...@gmx.de --- (In reply to comment #18) something like font-family: sans-serif, Autonym; Unfortunately this is not how it works. My suggestion was to apply the font only to language names with otherwise missing

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #20 from Michael Zajac mich...@zajac.ca --- #p-lang a[lang=ja], #p-lang a[lang=th] { ... } Selectors like this work in all browsers including very old ones. Problem solved. Doesn’t work in MSIE 6. Sadly, millions use it and I

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #21 from Elitre elitr...@gmail.com --- Michael: here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Target_browser_matrix (warning, old data) I read: The unofficial rule for Wikimedia's browser support is that we try to support reading

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #22 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org --- (In reply to comment #21) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Target_browser_matrix That's VE. :) There's also

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #23 from Elitre elitr...@gmail.com --- (Yes, that's VE, which is not going to work with IE 6, but I guess the less than 0,1%-rule is generic? It's also mentioned at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Compatibility#Grade_B .) :) -- You

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #24 from Michael Zajac mich...@zajac.ca --- Thanks for the enlightening links, all. I see that MSIE 6 accounts for 0.83% of traffic, well over the 0.1% threshold, and thus remains supported as a grade B browser, for reading, but

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #25 from Michael Zajac mich...@zajac.ca --- (In reply to comment #24) I see that MSIE 6 accounts for 0.83% of traffic, well over the 0.1% threshold, Holy Hannah, MSIE 5.5 also qualifies with 0.11%! -- You are receiving this

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added See Also|

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #15 from MF-Warburg mfwarb...@googlemail.com --- I also experience this bug, with FF 24.0 on Windows 7. Isn't this a regression, since it worked before? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #16 from Christian Thiele ap...@apper.de --- Created attachment 13681 -- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=13681action=edit Comparison Autonym Arial I made a sample to show the problem: Two times Nederlands is

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #17 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it --- (In reply to comment #15) Isn't this a regression, since it worked before? Technically no because it's a new feature, no fonts have been served for interwikis in the last few weeks to save

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 Danny B. dann...@email.cz changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|Interwiki names blurred and |Language names blurred and

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 Michael Zajac mich...@zajac.ca changed: What|Removed |Added CC||mich...@zajac.ca ---

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #13 from Michael Zajac mich...@zajac.ca --- The problem seems to be “missing pixels.” Only one of three screenshots shows anything “blurred” that isn’t also occurring in the default font. Might both be caused by lack of hinting, but

[Bug 56346] Language names blurred and legible with difficulty (using the hardcoded Autonym font)

2013-11-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56346 --- Comment #14 from TMg mr.h...@gmx.de --- Created attachment 13654 -- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=13654action=edit Firefox/Opera 12/IE 9 with ClearType enabled Here is an other screenshot with ClearType enabled. From