Re: [Wikidata] ViziData

2015-06-04 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 04.06.2015 22:00, Scott MacLeod wrote: Thanks, Markus and George, I could only see a few controls in the upper left corner in Chrome in most of the links you both shared, except the video demo, George, did come through. You need to wait until the loading is finished before you can see the

Re: [Wikidata] ViziData

2015-06-04 Thread Scott MacLeod
Thanks, Markus and George, I could only see a few controls in the upper left corner in Chrome in most of the links you both shared, except the video demo, George, did come through. This is an exciting CC data which I hope will articulate with something like Google Earth, for example, and for a va

Re: [Wikidata] Historic buildings/National trust (Mike Cummins)

2015-06-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 4 June 2015 at 15:35, Mike Cummins wrote: > I noticed several items that have 'National Trust (with link) in the text > but not as an attribute in Wikidata. Mike Can you post some examples, please? What do you mean by "in the text" - the Wikidata descriptions? Wikipedia content? All: thanks

Re: [Wikidata] ViziData

2015-06-04 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hey, Thanks, Georg, that's really interesting. The added feature to inspect each element to see the items there is really useful. It's great that it works at high zooms now with the map in the background: I have spent some time exploring my own vicinity for people born there. As before, it wo

[Wikidata] Historic buildings/National trust (Mike Cummins)

2015-06-04 Thread Mike Cummins
 Magnus Manske wrote:> I can offer you ~10K Grade I listed buildings and their coordinates from> We also have ~23K Grade II* buildings: From https://www.historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/data-downloads/ I get: I 9,159II 337,560II* 21,405 but there is little information: The unique ID, grade,

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Magnus Knuth
Am 04.06.2015 um 14:00 schrieb Markus Krötzsch : > On 04.06.2015 12:17, Dimitris Kontokostas wrote: > ... >> >>Another question: can DBpedia extract references from Wikipedia >>articles too? If this would be possible, it might be feasible to >>guess and suggest a reference (or a list

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 04.06.2015 12:17, Dimitris Kontokostas wrote: ... Another question: can DBpedia extract references from Wikipedia articles too? If this would be possible, it might be feasible to guess and suggest a reference (or a list of references). Especially with things like date of death

[Wikidata] ViziData

2015-06-04 Thread Georg Wild
I'd like to once more draw your attention to ViziData [1]. The project has matured a bit since I first brought it up here a few months ago. Most notably there is now an underlying tile map providing some orientation better integration and interaction between map and timeline and the possi

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Dimitris Kontokostas
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Markus Krötzsch < mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote: > On 04.06.2015 11:05, Dimitris Kontokostas wrote: > >> We are currently working on something that could be extended to be used >> as a source of finding data conflicts / import. >> I have to check if this can

Re: [Wikidata] [Wikimedia-l] English Wikipedia uses Wikidata for person data

2015-06-04 Thread Pine W
Sounds like a reasonable idea to me. Another open source advocate in Seattle has encouraged cooperation between Wikipedia and DBpedia. What would it take to make Gerard's suggestion come to life? Pine On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 12:26 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > An argument rages about the

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 4 June 2015 at 11:32, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > If we want to make visible that our data is good, you have to approach it > from another angle. Adding sources to all statements is not going to happen. > Comparing data that exists in multiple sources is comparatively easy. When > data at Wikida

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 4 June 2015 at 11:27, John Erling Blad wrote: > In some countries there are birth and death registers that can be > queried, often only to validate a date, but it usually comes with > access limitations and a cost. Any idea how we could automate a check > against those? We could work with our

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 4 June 2015 at 10:56, Markus Krötzsch wrote: > the primary sources tool New to me - where can we read more about this, please? > Especially with things like date of death, one would expect that references > have a publication date very close to (but strictly after) the event Often the same

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread John Erling Blad
Interesting... https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase_Quality_Extensions On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Lydia Pintscher wrote: > On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 12:27 PM, John Erling Blad wrote: >> In some countries there are birth and death registers that can be >> queried, often only to validate a

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, This is the all singing all dancing solution. When can we have something now .. It does not need to be integrated. It only needs to work. Thanks, GerardM Why wait for tomorrow when it can be done now ? On 4 June 2015 at 12:54, Lydia Pintscher wrote: > On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 12:27 PM,

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 12:27 PM, John Erling Blad wrote: > In some countries there are birth and death registers that can be > queried, often only to validate a date, but it usually comes with > access limitations and a cost. Any idea how we could automate a check > against those? That is https:

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, If we want to make visible that our data is good, you have to approach it from another angle. Adding sources to all statements is not going to happen. Comparing data that exists in multiple sources is comparatively easy. When data at Wikidata is the same as a source like VIAF or IMDB, we do n

[Wikidata] maintaining the dearly departed

2015-06-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am giving notice that I will no longer maintain the people who are known to have died on Wikidata. There are a few reasons: - I do not have the same amount of time I used to have - My time is better spend on other things. Linking people through associations is more relevant - I

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread John Erling Blad
In some countries there are birth and death registers that can be queried, often only to validate a date, but it usually comes with access limitations and a cost. Any idea how we could automate a check against those? John ___ Wikidata mailing list Wikid

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Markus Krötzsch wrote: > That's exactly what I am saying. I think your misconception is that what you > suggest does not happen because of some opposition from the Wikidata > community. In reality, it simply does not happen because nobody did it yet, > neither from

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Erics wikiadres
Good day, In my opinion it's a fine service (especially for me). I agree with Gerard concerning the use of DBpedia. best regards, Eric van Balkum p.s. We can add one to the list nl.WIKIPEDIA.org/WIKI/ALBERT_WEST (or the bot will do so) Gerard Meijssen schreef op 2015-06-04 10:49: > Hoi, Mar

Re: [Wikidata] [Wikimedia-l] English Wikipedia uses Wikidata for person data

2015-06-04 Thread Richard Symonds
Hello all, Could we keep this discussion on one mailing list (or at least on all of them consistently if possible please? I'm missing out on parts of the conversation :-) Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Re

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 04.06.2015 11:05, Dimitris Kontokostas wrote: We are currently working on something that could be extended to be used as a source of finding data conflicts / import. I have to check if this can be integrated with the primary sources tool. I hope we have something ready in the next couple of we

Re: [Wikidata] English Wikipedia uses Wikidata for person data

2015-06-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am not championing Sparkle and other wonderful tools. I am adding data and i do no longer have the time. While I applaud your work it does not bring new data like the date of death into Wikidata. It works on the back of the work of the drones like me who add data. Your work while important i

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Dimitris Kontokostas
We are currently working on something that could be extended to be used as a source of finding data conflicts / import. I have to check if this can be integrated with the primary sources tool. I hope we have something ready in the next couple of weeks and I'll get back at this thread. Best, Dimitr

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 04.06.2015 10:49, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, Markus with all due respect, we have a LOT of data in Wikidata that is plain wrong. When we add the missing data from DBpedia it is of a higher quality than what we have. Insisting that it first needs to be validated is foolish. It is not done for

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Markus with all due respect, we have a LOT of data in Wikidata that is plain wrong. When we add the missing data from DBpedia it is of a higher quality than what we have. Insisting that it first needs to be validated is foolish. It is not done for any of the work we do. All our bots make use o

Re: [Wikidata] English Wikipedia uses Wikidata for person data

2015-06-04 Thread Markus Kroetzsch
Hi Gerard, On 04.06.2015 09:26, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, An argument rages about the significance of the English WIkipedia using Wikidata for person data, things like date of death. I don't see an argument raging anywhere, though you seem to be raging quite a bit ;-) Maybe you have been di

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi Dmitris, Interesting situation. If you have contradictory data from several templates, then the challenge will be to find out which information is correct for importing it to Wikidata. Could your dataset maybe become an input to the primary sources tool [1]? Then Wikidata users could help t

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Dimitris Kontokostas
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 1:18 AM, Markus Krötzsch < mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote: > On 03.06.2015 22:44, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > >> Hoi, >> The Dutch indicated their willingness to add the dead to Wikidata ... I >> add quite a few dead from other countries and because of Jura1 >> Brazilians

[Wikidata] English Wikipedia uses Wikidata for person data

2015-06-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, An argument rages about the significance of the English WIkipedia using Wikidata for person data, things like date of death. DBpedia does a better job than Wikidata does and it does it because they not only use dumps to update their information but they also use information from RSS. Therefor