Re: [Wikidata] Explaining Wikidata

2017-05-17 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, One reason why discussions like this stall is because of the terminology expected. Take the previous mail; is "ecomplexity" a probable typo or is it a term I do not know. It turned me of from reading much further. I do not care all too much but when people are pedantic and do not explain thei

Re: [Wikidata] Explaining Wikidata

2017-05-17 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The big point of having data that is consistently "different" is that it can be queried and using query it can be changed. There is a problem in having so much data but the problem in not having data is even bigger. A good example is in "professor".. it has its own structures (multiple) and in

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 17 May 2017 at 20:20, Andra Waagmeester wrote: > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Andy Mabbett > wrote: >> >> On 17 May 2017 at 16:28, Andra Waagmeester wrote: >> >> > Just to add to Egon's comment IRI's can also be added to Wikidata using >> > the >> > Property P2888 - Exact Match. >> >> I

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Andra Waagmeester
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 17 May 2017 at 16:28, Andra Waagmeester wrote: > > > Just to add to Egon's comment IRI's can also be added to Wikidata using > the > > Property P2888 - Exact Match. > > I wouldn't advise doing this when we already have the ID in a specifi

Re: [Wikidata] Explaining Wikidata

2017-05-17 Thread Thomas Douillard
To be pedantic, not everything is an item. There is entities who are not items and the non-entity datatype are not. > What's not possible is to have sets or clusters of items, and to give properties to such sets and clusters. This is somehow related to the book topic. This is something I’d defini

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 17 May 2017 at 17:32, Wouter Beek wrote: > For instance the Dutch municipality of Apeldoorn > (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3018561) should refer to the Kadaster > resource IRI and not to a document IRI (as is currently the case). > There is also a "formatter URL" property (P1630). Maybe t

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Wouter Beek
Hi Andy, Thank you for the useful feedback. I'm trying to understand what's the best way for us to link our LOD activities to Wikidata's. Your comments (and also Egon's BTW) are thus much appreciated. On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > Other's have answered this, but I woul

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Wouter Beek
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > Purge the page, per: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Purge#Purge_request_to_server > > (that's advice for Wikipedia, but the principles are the same) > > Also, please give specific URLs for examples, not "one of the...". Let m

Re: [Wikidata] Explaining Wikidata

2017-05-17 Thread Joakim Soderberg
Aubrey, Thanks for the explanation and enlightening examples. Here are my two cents’ worth. Having an open community defining semantics to cross domain items is powerful and challenging. To mention one problem, I have come across several statements where ‘instance of’ has been confused with ‘abo

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Wouter Beek
Hi Andy, Thank you for the useful feedback. I'm trying to understand what's the best way for us to link our LOD activities to Wikidata's. Your comments (and also Egon's BTW) are thus much appreciated. On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > Other's have answered this, but I woul

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 17 May 2017 at 17:06, Wouter Beek wrote: > The old template was pointing to the Linked Data browser > (i.e., HTML documents). I've changed this to the URI template of the > identifiers for Dutch municipalities. Thank you. > When I visit one of the Dutch municipalities, it still has the old

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Wouter Beek
Hi, Thanks to Egon I now understand that I can change the RDF URI template. The old template was pointing to the Linked Data browser (i.e., HTML documents). I've changed this to the URI template of the identifiers for Dutch municipalities. When I visit one of the Dutch municipalities, it still

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 17 May 2017 at 15:14, Egon Willighagen wrote: > It can have both... (if I understand correctly what you want)... see > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P662 > > It has "formatter URL" (P1630) for the HTML and "RDF URI template" > (P1921) for the IRI I've done this for P981 ("BAG-code

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 17 May 2017 at 15:09, Wouter Beek wrote: > Kadaster, the Dutch cadastre agency is publishing its base registries as > Linked Open Data. Yay! \o/ > This means that we have minted unique identifiers for all > buildings, roads, etc in the Netherlands. > > Wikidata currently includes links to th

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 17 May 2017 at 16:28, Andra Waagmeester wrote: > Just to add to Egon's comment IRI's can also be added to Wikidata using the > Property P2888 - Exact Match. I wouldn't advise doing this when we already have the ID in a specific property. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.o

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Andra Waagmeester
Just to add to Egon's comment IRI's can also be added to Wikidata using the Property P2888 - Exact Match. On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Egon Willighagen < egon.willigha...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Wouter Beek wrote: > > Wikidata currently includes links to the Kada

[Wikidata] Explaining Wikidata

2017-05-17 Thread Andrea Zanni
[Sorry for cross-posting. I just sent this mail to the Wikicite mailing list, but I thought it could be of interest also here. Moreover, the community here could provide some important insight to better explain wikidata to "newbies" and set the right path for a meaningful conference.] Dear all, s

Re: [Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Wouter Beek wrote: > Wikidata currently includes links to the Kadaster, but these do not point to > the proper IRIs. For example, Dutch municipalities in Wikidata currently > link to an HTML viewer of Kadaster [1], but they should point to our > dereferenceable IR

[Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Wouter Beek
Hi Wikidata community, Kadaster, the Dutch cadastre agency is publishing its base registries as Linked Open Data. This means that we have minted unique identifiers for all buildings, roads, etc in the Netherlands. Wikidata currently includes links to the Kadaster, but these do not point to the p

[Wikidata] The Celtic Knot: Wikipedia Language Conference - programme now live!

2017-05-17 Thread MCANDREW Ewan
Dear colleagues, Please disseminate this open invitation to a University of Edinburgh and Wikimedia UK conference to interested colleagues as appropriate. How can technology support language communities? Join us at the Celtic Knot conference

[Wikidata] Improve Wikidata links to Dutch municipalities

2017-05-17 Thread Wouter Beek
Hi Wikidata community, Kadaster, the Dutch cadastre agency is publishing its base registries as Linked Open Data. This means that we have minted unique identifiers for all buildings, roads, etc in the Netherlands. Wikidata currently includes links to the Kadaster, but these do not point to the p