Re: [Wikidata] Mix'n'match: how to preserve manually audited items for posterity?

2015-11-29 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I have merged your Grasulf with the one that existed. I did it based on the documentation you provided a source for :) Thanks, GerardM On 27 November 2015 at 19:41, Dario Taraborelli wrote: > oh I see, what a mess those Grisulfs, the family relationships

Re: [Wikidata] Mix'n'match: how to preserve manually audited items for posterity?

2015-11-27 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I do not know how to as there are two candidates. I do not have your book that helps pick the right one. I have added some statements so that disambiguation is even easier. Reasonator is a great tool :) Thanks, GerardM On 27 November 2015 at 19:35, Dario Taraborelli

Re: [Wikidata] Mix'n'match: how to preserve manually audited items for posterity?

2015-11-27 Thread Dario Taraborelli
Magnus, this is fantastic and works as expected, thanks a lot. One last note regarding the use of different from (P1889 ). While I agree with you that it would be overkill to generate all these relations for common homonyms, for new items created

Re: [Wikidata] Mix'n'match: how to preserve manually audited items for posterity?

2015-11-27 Thread Dario Taraborelli
err…point me to the correct item or fix it then? WP:BOLD > On Nov 27, 2015, at 10:33 AM, Gerard Meijssen > wrote: > > Hoi, > It is highly likely that your Lombard duke already existed. So I think you > got it wrong. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 27 November 2015

Re: [Wikidata] Mix'n'match: how to preserve manually audited items for posterity?

2015-11-27 Thread Dario Taraborelli
Gerard – I think you’re missing my point. I’m not suggesting this as a display feature (which would be welcome and can always be generated by any tool querying Wikidata labels) but as a contribution stored to avoid future errors. > On Nov 27, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Gerard Meijssen

Re: [Wikidata] Mix'n'match: how to preserve manually audited items for posterity?

2015-11-27 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Why not use Reasonator? https://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?find=Grasulfo Thanks, GerardM On 27 November 2015 at 19:26, Dario Taraborelli wrote: > Magnus, this is fantastic and works as expected, thanks a lot. > > One last note regarding the use of

Re: [Wikidata] Mix'n'match: how to preserve manually audited items for posterity?

2015-11-23 Thread Magnus Manske
Done. On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:25 PM Asaf Bartov wrote: > On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Dario Taraborelli < > dtarabore...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > >> On Nov 21, 2015, at 10:31, Magnus Manske >> wrote: >> > A soultion could be to change

Re: [Wikidata] Mix'n'match: how to preserve manually audited items for posterity?

2015-11-23 Thread Dario Taraborelli
Magnus, is the change live yet? I unmatched Giuseppe Civran (Q3770329 ) and Giuseppe Civran (DBI ) and flagged the latter as “Not on Wikidata”, but no new item was created. I

Re: [Wikidata] Mix'n'match: how to preserve manually audited items for posterity?

2015-11-22 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Dario Taraborelli, 21/11/2015 18:34: I spent most of my time manually auditing automatically matched entries from the Dizionario Biografico degli Italiani [2]. Thank you! That's very useful. I did some thousands too. :) My favorite example? Mix’n’ match suggested a match between /Giulio

Re: [Wikidata] Mix'n'match: how to preserve manually audited items for posterity?

2015-11-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Yes you can add an item for the missing brother. When you do, you should link it to his brother and thereby they are explicitly not the same. They can both have the same alias. It helps when you add pertinent data like a date of birth/death. I take it they are not twins. Thanks, GerardM

Re: [Wikidata] Mix'n'match: how to preserve manually audited items for posterity?

2015-11-21 Thread Dario Taraborelli
> On Nov 21, 2015, at 10:31, Magnus Manske wrote: > > To address the first point: > So the auto-matches are just simple label-mmatches. Removing the automatch in > mix'n'match just says that this was not the same person etc. and the entry is > moved back to the

Re: [Wikidata] Mix'n'match: how to preserve manually audited items for posterity?

2015-11-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What you are talking about is a workflow that is much more involved than anything we currently automate. The first thing is that you define a project. You assume that everyone mentioned in the Dizionario Biografico degli Italiani is notable enough to have a Wikidata item. The second thing

Re: [Wikidata] Mix'n'match: how to preserve manually audited items for posterity?

2015-11-21 Thread Magnus Manske
To address the first point: So the auto-matches are just simple label-mmatches. Removing the automatch in mix'n'match just says that this was not the same person etc. and the entry is moved back to the "unmatched" pool. This does /not/ mean there isn't a match on Wikidata! You only say that by

[Wikidata] Mix'n'match: how to preserve manually audited items for posterity?

2015-11-21 Thread Dario Taraborelli
I finally found the time to play extensively with Mix’n’match and it’s by far one of the most promising models I’ve come across for Wikidata growth. A short conversation with Magnus on Twitter got me thinking on how to best preserve the output of costly human curation.[1] I spent most of my

Re: [Wikidata] Mix'n'match: how to preserve manually audited items for posterity?

2015-11-21 Thread Maarten Dammers
Hi Dario, Op 21-11-2015 om 18:34 schreef Dario Taraborelli: - shouldn’t a manually unmatched item be created directly on Wikidata (after all DBI is all about notable individuals who would easily pass Wikidata’s notability threshold for biographies) If the person in question is notable, you

Re: [Wikidata] Mix'n'match: how to preserve manually audited items for posterity?

2015-11-21 Thread Dario Taraborelli
> On Nov 21, 2015, at 10:44, rupert THURNER wrote: > > > On Nov 21, 2015 18:35, "Dario Taraborelli" wrote: > > > > > My favorite example? Mix’n’ match suggested a match between Giulio > > Baldigara (Q1010811) and Giulio Baldigara (DBI)