Re: [Wikidata] Use-notes in item descriptions

2015-11-05 Thread John Erling Blad
Descriptions is a clarification like the parenthesis form on Wikipedia, but extended and formalized. Use notes should not be put into this field. John On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 6:19 PM, James Heald wrote: > The place where these hints are vital is in the tool-tips that come up > when somebody is i

Re: [Wikidata] Use-notes in item descriptions

2015-11-05 Thread James Heald
The place where these hints are vital is in the tool-tips that come up when somebody is inputting the value of a property. It's a quick message to say "don't use that item, use this other item". A section on the talk page simply doesn't cover it. I suppose one could create a community property

Re: [Wikidata] Use-notes in item descriptions

2015-11-05 Thread Dan Garry
Hey! Thanks for sending this. This issue has been noticed and discussed previously in T97566 . I'd encourage reading that task for a bit more background on the previous discussion. Wikidata descriptions are used outside Wikidata in a few different places

Re: [Wikidata] Use-notes in item descriptions

2015-11-05 Thread Benjamin Good
A section in the talk page associated with the article in question would seem to solve this (definitely real) problem? - assuming that a would-be editor was aware of the talk page. Alternatively, you could propose a generic property with a text field that could be added to items on an as-needed bas

Re: [Wikidata] Use-notes in item descriptions

2015-11-05 Thread Jane Darnell
Yes I have noticed this need for use notes, but it is specific to properties, isn't it? I see it in things such as choosing what to put in the "genre" property of an artwork. It would be nice to have some sort of pop-up that you can fill with more than what you put in. For example I get easily conf

Re: [Wikidata] Use-notes in item descriptions

2015-11-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Another point, it is the English label that has this problem. How is it in other languages? Thanks, GerardM On 5 November 2015 at 10:54, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > Given that we KNOW that descriptions are second best in the first place, > why not acknowledge this and keep the curr

Re: [Wikidata] Use-notes in item descriptions

2015-11-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Given that we KNOW that descriptions are second best in the first place, why not acknowledge this and keep the current practice? Thanks, GerardM On 5 November 2015 at 10:51, James Heald wrote: > I have been wondering about the practice of putting use-notes in item > descriptions. > > F

[Wikidata] Use-notes in item descriptions

2015-11-05 Thread James Heald
I have been wondering about the practice of putting use-notes in item descriptions. For example, on Q6581097 (male) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6581097 the (English) description reads: "human who is male (use with Property:P21 sex or gender). For groups of males use with subclass