[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T88571: Figure out if Neo4j is a possible alternative to Titan

Smalyshev added a comment. Moving to nodes didn't work either - when defining indexes for every property, it creates over 20K lucene files and tries to open all of them and gets out of filehandles, even though I've put a high limit on file descriptors (10) somehow it's not enough. Looks lik

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T87524: Merge with conflicting sitelinks is not rejected

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T88571: Figure out if Neo4j is a possible alternative to Titan

Smalyshev added a comment. Main problem with Neo4j so far is indexing - edge indexes are either manual addition (http://neo4j.com/docs/2.2.0-M03/indexing-add.html) or auto-indexing (http://neo4j.com/docs/2.2.0-M03/auto-indexing.html) which requires pre-defining all properties in configuration o

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T85541: ULS on does not work consistently when "compact personal bar" beta feature is enabled

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T88549: Investigate ArangoDB for Wikidata Query

Smalyshev added a comment. @Neunhoef In current data model, each edge carries a primary value, a boolean flag and a small set (usually well under 10, in most cases 1-3 or none) secondary values, each of which need to be indexed. It also can keep a set of auxiliary values for each of those, whic

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T88549: Investigate ArangoDB for Wikidata Query

Manybubbles added a comment. In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88549#1021733, @Neunhoef wrote: > I cannot really answer your question, in particular since it will depend on > whether you have only "thousands of hash indexes" or even "thousands of > skiplist indexes", as the above timings su

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T88549: Investigate ArangoDB for Wikidata Query

Neunhoef added a comment. @Smalyshev: Please also note: in my tests today the 4 indexes for 3M documents needed 672 MB of data, which is a reasonable amount of 226 bytes per document. That should be about 3GB (optimistically!) for your 16M documents (forgetting about edges!) If you really have

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T88550: Mourn Titan

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T88549: Investigate ArangoDB for Wikidata Query

Neunhoef added a comment. > Do you think sparse indexes are going to give us enough performance thousands > of these indexes with similar startup times to what we see now? Is that > something we can hack around by using fewer indexes and searching them in > more interesting ways? Say we just

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T88549: Investigate ArangoDB for Wikidata Query

Smalyshev added a comment. The thing which worries me the most is the non-persistent indexes. Note that the real data size would be not 3M nodes but about 20M nodes //and// over 100M edges, which all need to be indexed. Or, if we convert edges to nodes for indexing, that'd be about 150M nodes a

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T88549: Investigate ArangoDB for Wikidata Query

Neunhoef added a comment. > Assuming we're OK with just planning for large server deployments: Does the > memory requirement scale linearly with the size of the data? How does that > play with sharding and replication? How large are the largest ArangoDB > clusters? The memory requirements f

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T88549: Investigate ArangoDB for Wikidata Query

Neunhoef added a comment. > OK. Maybe its just a function of not using a super nice machine for testing. > We really do want the system to scale down to work with less ram and cheap, > big spinning disks so folks can run it on their laptop. That'll encourage > experimentation. Well, Arango

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Assigned] T88437: figure out current state of time storage and display

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Assigned] T88438: spec of how timevalue works and is supposed to work

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Assigned] T76213: Lua: Create a mw.wikibase.renderSnak method for rendering arbitrary Snaks

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T86694: Bump parser cache for wikibase content based on version

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T88721: Investigate InfoGrid for WDQ

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Reassigned] T88821: Port Wikidata-Gremlin to test against Neo4j

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T88549: Investigate ArangoDB for Wikidata Query

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T88821: Port Wikidata-Gremlin to test against Neo4j

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Triaged] T88821: Port Wikidata-Gremlin to test against Neo4j

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T88571: Figure out if Neo4j is a possible alternative to Titan

Manybubbles added a comment. In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88571#1017609, @daniel wrote: > Neo4j river plugin for Elastic: > https://github.com/sksamuel/elasticsearch-river-neo4j Rivers are essentially a deprecated concept - stay away if you like sanity. TASK DETAIL https://phabric

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T88571: Figure out if Neo4j is a possible alternative to Titan

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T88571: Figure out if Neo4j is a possible alternative to Titan

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T86694: Bump parser cache for wikibase content based on version

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T86694: Bump parser cache for wikibase content based on version

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T76213: Lua: Create a mw.wikibase.renderSnak method for rendering arbitrary Snaks

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T76213: Lua: Create a mw.wikibase.renderSnak method for rendering arbitrary Snaks

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Triaged] T88804: more on autocomplete in claim value opens property autocomplete instead

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T88804: more on autocomplete in claim value opens property autocomplete instead

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T88804: more on autocomplete in claim value opens property autocomplete instead

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T76213: Lua: Create a mw.wikibase.renderSnak method for rendering arbitrary Snaks

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T88438: spec of how timevalue works and is supposed to work

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T88425: Frontend JS should not re-render qualifiers and references upon load.

Snaterlicious added a comment. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/189018/ Along with the refactoring, the Property DOM is nor re-rendered on page load anymore. This definitely improves performance. `SnakTypeSelector` and `Variation` are sill re-rendered though. That may be avoided as well (as th

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T88549: Investigate ArangoDB for Wikidata Query

Manybubbles added a comment. In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88549#1018178, @Fceller wrote: > Hi, I'm the CTO of ArangoDB, so my comments are most certainly biased. I > still would like to tell you about our opinions on the raised issues, namely > full-text indexes and blueprint. Thanks

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T88549: Investigate ArangoDB for Wikidata Query

Manybubbles added a comment. In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88549#1020635, @Neunhoef wrote: > Disclaimer: Sorry, I forgot to introduce myself: My name is Max and I also > work for ArangoDB. Thanks! > The 3M documents need around 11 GB of main memory. If you have less, then you > see a

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T77981: QuantityValueParser: Allow unit to be specified via options

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T88541: Wikidata Browsertests (tracking)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T88795: Browsertests for badge-selector

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T88735: wikidata-rdf wrong format.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T88796: Browsertests for badges functionality (on the client)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T88549: Investigate ArangoDB for Wikidata Query

Neunhoef added a comment. Disclaimer: Sorry, I forgot to introduce myself: My name is Max and I also work for ArangoDB. Analysis The 3M documents need around 11 GB of main memory. If you have less, then you see a lot of swapping, because the insert operation in the indexes will essentially do

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T88695: Don't italicize text when entering aliases

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Reassigned] T88695: Don't italicize text when entering aliases

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T75654: Redesign header

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T88695: Don't italicize text when entering aliases

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T88695: Don't italicize text when entering aliases

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T88685: Edit image metadata in remote repositories from the downstream wiki

Lydia_Pintscher added subscribers: hoo, daniel, Lydia_Pintscher. Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. We'll not be anywhere near to supporting structured data on Commons in time for the hackathon. What could be hacked on is improving remote editing as a whole independent of Commons and structured da

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T88735: wikidata-rdf wrong format.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T88549: Investigate ArangoDB for Wikidata Query

Neunhoef added a comment. Further experiments: I dropped each of these indexes and recreated it. This isolates the rebuilding of the indexes from the loading (and scanning) of the collection files. Here are the timing results for the recreation (dropping is instantaneous): - unique hash index

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T88425: Frontend JS should not re-render qualifiers and references upon load.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T88549: Investigate ArangoDB for Wikidata Query

Neunhoef added a subscriber: Neunhoef. Neunhoef added a comment. This is a report about an actual experiment. I downloaded 20150126.json.gz to an AWS r3.2xlarge instance (61GB RAM, 80 GB SSD, 8 vCPUs) and then used ArangoDB V 2.4.1 do do the import of the first 2961954 documents in the file. I

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T88425: Frontend JS should not re-render qualifiers and references upon load.

Snaterlicious added a subscriber: Lydia_Pintscher. Snaterlicious added a comment. While suppressing JS redrawing on load is not that hard (in relative terms--still, it is the `snakview`), additional implications show up: When stopping edit mode ("save"/"cancel"), the by far easiest action to upd

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T86786: Write example queries in different query languages

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T88796: Browsertests for badges functionality (on the client)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T88795: Browsertests for badge-selector

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T64695: Draft a computer-assisted translation system for Wikidata labels/descriptions

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T88695: Don't italicize text when entering aliases

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T66590: Usage Tracking: dispatcher needs to figure out which clients to send a change to

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Merged] T86186: Use subscription service for dispatching changes to client

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T73052: Introduce a "entity change subscription" service

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T86185: Track the subscriptions

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T87686: Categories are metadata

Lydia_Pintscher added a subscriber: Lydia_Pintscher. Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. What @Tgr said. Categories as they are are associated with pages and not topics. They are also completely different across languages/cultures. So I'd say no to moving them to Wikidata. That being said there is