[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T149005: time values should be formatted in Wikitext output (and not just use the ISO-like representation)

2016-10-25 Thread hoo
hoo added a comment. AFAIR in the past we blocked similar efforts on being able to parse all dates we output (so that they could in theory be fed back to the repo). @Lydia_Pintscher: Do we still need to block on this?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149005EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phab

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T149005: time values should be formatted in Wikitext output (and not just use the ISO-like representation)

2016-10-25 Thread Izno
Izno added a comment. There are likely some "local consensus" type issues with this one. E.g en.WP does not allow auto-formatted dates (which is what I assume is meant by "formatted in Wikitext output). I do not know if other wikis have done the same.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T14

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T149005: time values should be formatted in Wikitext output (and not just use the ISO-like representation)

2016-10-25 Thread hoo
hoo added a comment. E.g en.WP does not allow auto-formatted dates In that case they are free to keep using the ISO-like representation.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149005EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: hooCc: Izno, Aklapper,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T149005: time values should be formatted in Wikitext output (and not just use the ISO-like representation)

2016-10-25 Thread Izno
Izno added a comment. In T149005#2742049, @hoo wrote: E.g en.WP does not allow auto-formatted dates In that case they are free to keep using the ISO-like representation. By which you mean, use {{#property}} rather than {{#statement}}?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149005EMAIL PRE

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T149005: time values should be formatted in Wikitext output (and not just use the ISO-like representation)

2016-10-25 Thread hoo
hoo added a comment. In T149005#2742058, @Izno wrote: In T149005#2742049, @hoo wrote: E.g en.WP does not allow auto-formatted dates In that case they are free to keep using the ISO-like representation. By which you mean, use {{#property}} rather than {{#statement}}? For now, yes, I guess.TAS

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T149005: time values should be formatted in Wikitext output (and not just use the ISO-like representation)

2016-10-26 Thread thiemowmde
thiemowmde added a comment. I'm sorry, @Izno, but what does "does not allow auto-formatted dates" mean? Showing "2016-12-31" to the reader does not make much sense. Dates must be formatted. {{#statements|…}} is meant as a convenience feature that fits most needs, but never can fit all needs. If a

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T149005: time values should be formatted in Wikitext output (and not just use the ISO-like representation)

2016-10-26 Thread daniel
daniel added a comment. @thiemowmde IIRC, #property does return the ISO style date. This was done to allow people to use existing formatting templates for dates. But I didn't double-check this now.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149005EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T149005: time values should be formatted in Wikitext output (and not just use the ISO-like representation)

2016-10-26 Thread thiemowmde
thiemowmde added a comment. Go to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Douglas_Adams&action="">, paste {{#property:P570}} and click "Show preview".TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149005EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: thiemow

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T149005: time values should be formatted in Wikitext output (and not just use the ISO-like representation)

2016-10-26 Thread Izno
Izno added a comment. In T149005#2744080, @thiemowmde wrote: I'm sorry, @Izno, but what does "does not allow auto-formatted dates" mean? Showing "2016-12-31" to the reader does not make much sense. Dates must be formatted. en.WP had date auto-formatting disabled. This subsequently made its way i

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T149005: time values should be formatted in Wikitext output (and not just use the ISO-like representation)

2016-10-26 Thread thiemowmde
thiemowmde added a comment. Thanks a lot for the links, @Izno, this clarifies things a lot. Short version: This is mostly unrelated to what we are talking about in this ticket. The "date auto-formatting" discussed there was a MediaWiki feature that was removed a long time ago, see https://www.media