daniel added a comment.
@Nemo_bis whether or not they need to change something depends on their local conventions. We have no way to know and understand such local conventions for all Wiktionaries.
We did our best to make this non-disruptive, but there are always edge-cases. The best we can do is
Nemo_bis added a comment.
In T165061#3307061, @Lea_Lacroix_WMDE wrote:
Hello all, just to mention that I created a discussion topic here, so we can find a consensus whithin the different communities.
If some wikis need to change something, they should be notified individually.TASK
Lea_Lacroix_WMDE added a comment.
Hello all, just to mention that I created a discussion topic here, so we can find a consensus whithin the different communities. Feel free to summarize your point of view and your concerns there. Thanks a lot!TASK
daniel added a comment.
In T165061#3281823, @Thibaut120094 wrote:
Showing two links for the same language doesn't make any sense for the reader (see capture).
True. Cognate could detect this situation, and only show the link that exactly matches the local page's title.
However, this would hide
Darkdadaah added a comment.
In T165061#3281823, @Thibaut120094 wrote:
Btw, [[’]] should only show interwiki links to [[’]], not links to [[’]] and [[']] like on https://fr.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=%E2%80%99=23047369
[...]
Showing two links for the same language doesn't make any sense
Thibaut120094 added a comment.
Btw, [[’]] should only show interwiki links to [[’]], not links to [[’]] and [[']] like on https://fr.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=%E2%80%99=23047369
Same for [[...]], [[…]] [[']]
Having two links for the same language doesn't make any sense for the reader.
Addshore added a comment.
The data for enwiki now looks as below:
+--+--+
| cgti_raw | cgti_raw |
+--+--+
| ... | …|
| '_' | ’_’ |
| ’| '|
+--+--+
3 rows in set (35.95 sec)
Is this something that would be
-sche added a comment.
I've almost finished standardizing the Maya entries I mentioned, consolidating ~4 pairs of entries prior to your post. :-) Now I just consolidated 3 of the pairs you mention. The other 6 entries, for the individual characters, will probably be kept separate.
I think no
daniel added a comment.
The following database query shows all pairs of page names on English wiktionary that would be conflicting based on these normalization rules:
mysql:wikiadmin@10.64.16.18 [cognate_wiktionary]> SELECT a.cgti_raw, b.cgti_raw
-> FROM cognate_titles as a
-> JOIN
daniel added a comment.
Here is the current normalization map from Cognate\StringNormalizer:
private $replacements = [
'’' => '\'',
'…' => '...',
' ' => '_',
];
This maps:
right-single-quotation-mark (codepoint 02019) to the ascii apostrophy
horizontal-ellipsis (codepoint 02026) to
Wikitiki89 added a comment.
In T165061#3263807, @Darkdadaah wrote:
@Wikitiki89 Do you have examples of a Foo... <-> Foo… article (or with different apostrophes)? The only articles I can think of would be those about the character themselves.
Is there a list somewhere of the characters that
Darkdadaah added a comment.
@Wikitiki89 Do you have examples of a Foo... <-> Foo… article (or with different apostrophes)? The only articles I can think of would be those about the character themselves.
If this is a problem for a relatively large number of articles, then we need to discuss it
Lea_Lacroix_WMDE added a comment.
Thanks for your feedbacks. I'd like to start a discussion over the 3 main Wiktionaries (en, fr and de) to solve these questions about redirects. I'm sure we can find a common solution that will allow Cognate to be efficient while fitting the rules and processes of
daniel added a comment.
There is one thing to be careful about here: The combination of redirects and normalization.
As far as I know, it's quite frequent to have redirects to the normalized version of a title. For instance, if wiki 2 follows the convention of using the ellipsis character ("…")
Wikitiki89 added a comment.
Just to clarify, we don't want "color" in Wiki 1 to link directly to "colow" in Wiki 2, but rather it should link to "color" in Wiki 2 and then the redirect should take place as usual.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T165061EMAIL
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