[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T213571: Ignore babel box languages the user doesn't know

2019-01-15 Thread Nemo_bis
Nemo_bis added a comment. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_language is the authoritative description of what the extension is supposed to do (the extension was created with the precise purpose to satisfy those requirements) and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Babel agrees.TASK DETAILht

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T213571: Ignore babel box languages the user doesn't know

2019-01-14 Thread Jdforrester-WMF
Jdforrester-WMF added a comment. In T213571#4875391, @AlexisJazz wrote: @Jdforrester-WMF According to meta, level 0 doesn't understand the language at all. Level 1 can only read. Only level 2 and up are capable or writing in a language. So input fields (which require writing) should only be presen

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T213571: Ignore babel box languages the user doesn't know

2019-01-12 Thread Legoktm
Legoktm added a comment. My understanding is that people wanted to be able to see languages in the Wikidata interface they didn't actually speak, so the workaround was to add boxes saying xx-0. I think there's a bit of a difference between a) languages in the interface the user themselves wants to

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T213571: Ignore babel box languages the user doesn't know

2019-01-12 Thread AlexisJazz
AlexisJazz added a comment. @Multichill You didn't answer my question. If you add en-0 to your babel it reads "This user has no knowledge of English (or understands it with considerable difficulty)". Several languages even bold the "no knowledge" part. The user has no knowledge. Why should those us

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T213571: Ignore babel box languages the user doesn't know

2019-01-12 Thread Multichill
Multichill added a comment. Babel templates are an indication to other users and the software in what languages you can interact and at what level. For example I have es-0 on my Wikidata user page because I sometimes interact in Spanish although that takes me a lot of effort. You can read more abou

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T213571: Ignore babel box languages the user doesn't know

2019-01-11 Thread AlexisJazz
AlexisJazz added a comment. In T213571#4873929, @Lydia_Pintscher wrote: It was not forgotten. It is an intentional feature on Wikidata. What's the use case for that? A user doesn't know a language, let's present them input fields for that?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213571EMAIL

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T213571: Ignore babel box languages the user doesn't know

2019-01-11 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. It was not forgotten. It is an intentional feature on Wikidata.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213571EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Lydia_PintscherCc: Lydia_Pintscher, Jdforrester-WMF, AlexisJazz,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T213571: Ignore babel box languages the user doesn't know

2019-01-11 Thread AlexisJazz
AlexisJazz added a comment. In T213571#4873867, @Jdforrester-WMF wrote: Do you think this should be done for Wikidata as well, or do you think behaviour should be different on Commons and Wikidata? (Not assuming either way, just trying to work out the request.) When a user indicates not knowing

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T213571: Ignore babel box languages the user doesn't know

2019-01-11 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. It should stay like it is for standard Wikibase at least. People use it.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213571EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Lydia_PintscherCc: Lydia_Pintscher, Jdforrester-WMF, Al