daniel added a comment.
Since https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94747 has been decided now, I'll
narrow the scope of this ticket to be just about the domain to use for the
wikibase ontology.
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@mkroetzsch: You say that changing the URIs does not solve the problem of
breaking changes to an ontology. If I understand you correctly, you are saying
that if I run a SPARQL query using the base URI http://acme.com/onto1, but the
triple store now uses http://acme.com/o
mkroetzsch added a comment.
@daniel Changing URIs of the ontology vocabulary is "silently producing wrong
results" as well. I understand the problems you are trying to solve. I am just
saying that changing the URIs does not actually solve them.
@adrianheine You are right. My example was less su
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In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93207#1135612, @mkroetzsch wrote:
> - Try to apply your proposal to the MediaWiki API: "Every API action should
> contain the MW version number." I think from your experience with MW it
> should be easier for you to see why this
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@mkroetzsch I think I see your point about "another breaking change" now: If a
dataset used to contain objects using URIs based on http://acme.test/onto1, and
that changes to http://acme.test/onto2, the same query against the dataset
would return objects with completely
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@daniel It makes sense to use wikibase rather than wikidata, but I don't think
it matters very much at all. We should just define it rather sooner than later.
As for the versioning, I don't see how to convince you. Four more attempts:
- Try to apply your proposal to
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In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93207#1133747, @mkroetzsch wrote:
> @daniel: Have you wondered why XML Schema decided against changing their
> URIs? It is by far the most disruptive thing that you could possibly do.
Besides a breaking change in the interpretation,
mkroetzsch added a comment.
@daniel: Have you wondered why XML Schema decided against changing their URIs?
It is by far the most disruptive thing that you could possibly do. Ontologies
don't work like software libraries where you download a new version and build
your tool against it, changing i
Manybubbles added a comment.
In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93207#1133107, @daniel wrote:
> Regarding the version in the ontology URI: I think this is actually very
> important, since it allows us to make breaking changes to the ontology.
> People checking for the exact URI is exactly wh
daniel added a comment.
Regarding the version in the ontology URI: I think this is actually very
important, since it allows us to make breaking changes to the ontology. People
checking for the exact URI is exactly what we want.
Fun fact: XSD uses the same URI for 1.0 and 1.1, but *completely* c
daniel added a comment.
The domain wikiba.se is owned by WMDE, I think.
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mkroetzsch added a comment.
Hi Daniel.
Good point, I agree that this should change. A URL based on wikiba.se seems to
be the best. I don't think we need to worry about domain ownership here (why
would anybody sell this domain? Is it not WMF-owned?)
I think it is not a good idea to change ontoo
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