[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T295560: Share complex SPARQL queries in Wikidata Query Service via short URL [investigation]

Manuel added a comment. Amir now created https://query-chest.toolforge.org which can solve a lot of use cases! \o/ TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T295560 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: CennoxX, Legoktm,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T295560: Share complex SPARQL queries in Wikidata Query Service via short URL [investigation]

Michael removed Michael as the assignee of this task. Michael added a comment. Unassigning myself as, at least for now, my work here is done. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T295560 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Mic

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T295560: Share complex SPARQL queries in Wikidata Query Service via short URL [investigation]

Manuel added a comment. @Mahir256: No worries, I did not forget this! Stuff mentioned on Telegram: - paste.toolforge.org - creating a new wiki page every time will probably be too complicated to just send a link to someone TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T295560 E

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T295560: Share complex SPARQL queries in Wikidata Query Service via short URL [investigation]

Manuel edited projects, added Wikidata-Campsite; removed Wikidata-Campsite (Team A Hearth 🏰🔥). TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T295560 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Michael, Manuel Cc: CennoxX, Legoktm, Michael, Mahir2

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T295560: Share complex SPARQL queries in Wikidata Query Service via short URL [investigation]

Manuel added a comment. Thank you @Michael! I will now try to come up with a task for the next steps. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T295560 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Michael, Manuel Cc: CennoxX, Legoktm, Micha

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T295560: Share complex SPARQL queries in Wikidata Query Service via short URL [investigation]

Michael added a comment. In T295560#7508397 , @Legoktm wrote: > I've never really understood why URLs are the preferred mechanism for storing these queries. They're nice for a one-off, but make collaboration (what wikis excel at) incred

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T295560: Share complex SPARQL queries in Wikidata Query Service via short URL [investigation]

Legoktm added a comment. In T295560#7500990 , @Mahir256 wrote: > We have an as-yet unused "Query:" namespace ; perhaps it could be opened for storing queries longe

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T295560: Share complex SPARQL queries in Wikidata Query Service via short URL [investigation]

Legoktm added a comment. I've never really understood why URLs are the preferred mechanism for storing these queries. They're nice for a one-off, but make collaboration (what wikis excel at) incredibly difficult, because if you want to adjust or update a query, you have to create a brand new

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T295560: Share complex SPARQL queries in Wikidata Query Service via short URL [investigation]

Michael added a subscriber: Legoktm. Michael added a comment. But at the end of the day, I think @Legoktm initial suggestion is still the most practical one with the best value-for-effort: Just save your long query in a Wiki page and share that. We can probably make the process around th

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T295560: Share complex SPARQL queries in Wikidata Query Service via short URL [investigation]

Michael added a comment. In T295560#7504717 , @Manuel wrote: >> The trouble with compression is that we can //never// change it again. > > I see. Maybe some very simple dictionary approach could work? The syntax is highly redundant s

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T295560: Share complex SPARQL queries in Wikidata Query Service via short URL [investigation]

Manuel added a comment. > The trouble with compression is that we can //never// change it again. I see. Maybe some very simple dictionary approach could work? The syntax is highly redundant so that might go a long way. It would also leave the resulting string still interpretable. Not the

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T295560: Share complex SPARQL queries in Wikidata Query Service via short URL [investigation]

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T295560: Share complex SPARQL queries in Wikidata Query Service via short URL [investigation]

Manuel updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T295560 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Michael, Manuel Cc: Michael, Mahir256, Manuel, Aklapper, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T295560: Share complex SPARQL queries in Wikidata Query Service via short URL [investigation]

Manuel updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T295560 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Michael, Manuel Cc: Michael, Mahir256, Manuel, Aklapper, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T295560: Share complex SPARQL queries in Wikidata Query Service via short URL [investigation]

Manuel updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T295560 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Michael, Manuel Cc: Michael, Mahir256, Manuel, Aklapper, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T295560: Share complex SPARQL queries in Wikidata Query Service via short URL [investigation]

Michael added a comment. > What compression algorithm would be best suited for this purpose? And what have browser-javascript implementations? One possible example would be https://github.com/pieroxy/lz-string/ The trouble with compression is that we can //never// change it again. Si

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T295560: Share complex SPARQL queries in Wikidata Query Service via short URL [investigation]

Michael claimed this task. Michael moved this task from Prioritized Backlog to Doing on the Wikidata-Campsite (Team A Hearth 🏰🔥) board. Restricted Application added a project: User-Michael. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T295560 WORKBOARD https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/proj

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T295560: Share complex SPARQL queries in Wikidata Query Service via short URL [investigation]

Michael added a comment. In T295560#7500990 , @Mahir256 wrote: > We have an as-yet unused "Query:" namespace ; perhaps it could be opened for storing queries longe

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T295560: Share complex SPARQL queries in Wikidata Query Service via short URL [investigation]

Michael added a comment. > What other solutions could you think of? Building on what was suggested in T220703#7499438 : Why not do that in the browser? A small piece of js code in the query service gui, when provided with a page titl

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T295560: Share complex SPARQL queries in Wikidata Query Service via short URL [investigation]

Mahir256 added a comment. We have an as-yet unused "Query:" namespace ; perhaps it could be opened for storing queries longer than 2000 characters? (A redirection mechanism such that a visit to any page in that namespac

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T295560: Share complex SPARQL queries in Wikidata Query Service via short URL [investigation]

Manuel updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T295560 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Manuel Cc: Manuel, Aklapper, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T295560: Share complex SPARQL queries in Wikidata Query Service via short URL [investigation]

Manuel renamed this task from "Share complex SPARQL queries in Wikidata Query Service via a short URL " to "Share complex SPARQL queries in Wikidata Query Service via short URL [investigation] ". Manuel edited projects, added Wikidata-Campsite (Team A Hearth 🏰🔥); removed Wikidata-Campsite. Manue