Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata logo proposal

2012-04-04 Thread Joan Creus
The current meaning the logo had was a central element which "fed" all the Wikipedias. Regarding "moving" to the center, how would you do it? (I'll see if I can do it, do not expect wonders!). Joan Creus. 2012/4/5 Platonides > On 04/04/12 19:08, Benjamin Bois wrote: > > Hey.. better, but I'm st

[Wikidata-l] SNAK -> assertion?

2012-04-04 Thread James HK
Hi, When I glanced over the data model description and found the word 'Snaks' [1] as entity or unit of facts, it created some interpretive confusion. Semantic web already uses some abstract language to describe entity concepts, if possible don't introduce another one just to describe a new concept

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata logo proposal

2012-04-04 Thread Patricio Molina
This is my proposal: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_logo_proposal.svg, which is closely related to Wikimedia Commons' logo. In Commons the red dot (the project) is receiving media files from the different entities surrounding it. I think that we should maintain somehow the same co

[Wikidata-l] SNAK -> assertion?

2012-04-04 Thread Gregor Hagedorn
Would the Word "assertion" be a possible replacement for the neonym "Snak"? ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data_model: Metamodel: Wikipedialink

2012-04-04 Thread Gregor Hagedorn
> Wikidata can (and probably will) store information about each moon of > Uranus, e.g., its mass. It does probably not make sense to store the mass of > "Moons of Uranus" if there is such an article. It does not help to know that > the article "Moons on Uranus" also talks (among other things) about

Re: [Wikidata-l] A common, open access, human and computer readable data pool for scientist

2012-04-04 Thread Platonides
On 04/04/12 19:13, emijrp wrote: > I'm not sure if that kind of data will be desirable at Wikidata (not my > personal opinion, just thinking about community). > > For example, a lot of city articles contain info about temperature and > precipitation[1], but, are we going to import into Wikidata al

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata logo proposal

2012-04-04 Thread Platonides
On 04/04/12 19:08, Benjamin Bois wrote: > Hey.. better, but I'm still thinking to sunny flag with your design. > -- > Ben What about modifying the blue items to make it looks as "moving" to the center? (ie. the data that comes to be aggregated at WikiData). Currently, they could as well be drops o

Re: [Wikidata-l] A common, open access, human and computer readable data pool for scientist

2012-04-04 Thread Platonides
On 04/04/12 21:08, Oren Bochman wrote: > I would imagine developing such an acdemiwiki could be to developed > quite quickly once MW matures. I would need cloud based storage, a > source control system, advanced means of authentications. P2P > capabilities. But almost all of these things now are av

[Wikidata-l] Type namespace

2012-04-04 Thread John McClure
Hello- pardon me for any hint of ranting Please consider a different namespace than the Category namespace for defining TYPEs of things; of course, I am proposing a standard MW "Type" namespace. There are benefits to this refinement. 1. Easier for users - today categories are a mixture of pl

Re: [Wikidata-l] A common, open access, human and computer readable data pool for scientist

2012-04-04 Thread Oren Bochman
My 2 cents I have give the subject of academic wiki some thought in the last 6 months. I mean a wiki that could replace the paper journal and its publisher. But it would need a different collaboration model, In any sense that affects thier income the Academia is quite conservative - almost backwar

Re: [Wikidata-l] A common, open access, human and computer readable data pool for scientist

2012-04-04 Thread emijrp
I think that the problem is that Wikidata is not a storage in "the cloud" for all kind of scientific data. In the same fashion Wikipedia is not a portal for papers or academic publications, essays, lyrics, etc. Wikidata scope is not well defined yet, but it will have its limits, for sure. 2012/4/4

Re: [Wikidata-l] Is a mailing-list efficient to discuss the Wikidata project?

2012-04-04 Thread Platonides
On 04/04/12 06:33, aniketkarmar...@aniketkarmarkar.com wrote: > Hi Everyone, > I must agree that these emails are getting a bit overwhelming. I am not > even finding time to read more than 1 or 2 of them. > > I think a forum would be very helpful to keep at the ideas organized. > Aniket Why would

Re: [Wikidata-l] A common, open access, human and computer readable data pool for scientist

2012-04-04 Thread Leukippos Institute
Emijrp The storage limit of the sever is a great point. In biomedicine is this also of importance - see e.g. the second generation sequencing data. One might need to go together with NIH and eventually Google to discuss this matter. As a first effort might be a doable focused database desirable. I

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata logo proposal

2012-04-04 Thread Joan Creus
Here's a modified version, with not-so-many vertices: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_logo_idea2.svg . Joan Creus. 2012/4/4 Benjamin Bois > Hi Joan, > Not bad, maybe a bit too much "Sunny" logo (flag) in my POV ;) > -- > Ben Bois > > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Joan Creus

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata logo proposal

2012-04-04 Thread Joan Creus
I'll try with not-so-many vertices. Joan Creus. 2012/4/4 Benjamin Bois > Hi Joan, > Not bad, maybe a bit too much "Sunny" logo (flag) in my POV ;) > -- > Ben Bois > > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Joan Creus wrote: > >> Here is my test: >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_lo

[Wikidata-l] collecting list and infobox examples

2012-04-04 Thread Lydia Pintscher
Heya folks :) It'd be great if you could help collect input for lists and infoboxes that already exist now and that could in the future be supported by Wikidata. I have started two pages at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Infoboxes and http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Queries for th

Re: [Wikidata-l] first Wikidata office hour on IRC

2012-04-04 Thread Lydia Pintscher
Hey :) just a quick reminder that the english one will be in about 23 hours. Cheers Lydia On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Lydia Pintscher wrote: > Hi everyone! > > Next week the Wikidata team will be complete and start working at full > speed. Finally! \o/  I will be holding the first round

Re: [Wikidata-l] A common, open access, human and computer readable data pool for scientist

2012-04-04 Thread emijrp
I'm not sure if that kind of data will be desirable at Wikidata (not my personal opinion, just thinking about community). For example, a lot of city articles contain info about temperature and precipitation[1], but, are we going to import into Wikidata all the temperature values from 1900 to prese

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata logo proposal

2012-04-04 Thread Benjamin Bois
Hey.. better, but I'm still thinking to sunny flag with your design. -- Ben On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Joan Creus wrote: > Here's a modified version, with not-so-many vertices: > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_logo_idea2.svg . > > Joan Creus. > > > 2012/4/4 Benjamin Bois

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata logo proposal

2012-04-04 Thread Joan Creus
Here's a modified version, with not-so-many vertices: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_logo_idea2.svg . Joan Creus. 2012/4/4 Benjamin Bois > Hi Joan, > Not bad, maybe a bit too much "Sunny" logo (flag) in my POV ;) > -- > Ben Bois > > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Joan Creus

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata logo proposal

2012-04-04 Thread Benjamin Bois
Hi Joan, Not bad, maybe a bit too much "Sunny" logo (flag) in my POV ;) -- Ben Bois On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Joan Creus wrote: > Here is my test: > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_logo_idea.svg . > > I am not a graphical designer, but a hobbyist coder; I found that a > fe

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata logo proposal

2012-04-04 Thread Joan Creus
Here is my test: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_logo_idea.svg . I am not a graphical designer, but a hobbyist coder; I found that a feature in Inkscape could be useful and I came up with this. I've used the colors in other Wikimedia-related logos, the font face is DejaVu Sans bec

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata logo proposal

2012-04-04 Thread Benjamin Bois
Thank you Isa and Lydia! Yes of course, I'm ok to provide the SVG sources. Let me upload on the wiki and I'll do it :) Cheers, -- Ben Bois On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Benjamin Bois > wrote: > > Hi all

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata logo proposal

2012-04-04 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Benjamin Bois wrote: > Hi all, > > I've just finish 3 versions for the Wikidata logo. > I can't currently upload images in Wikimedia then the images are available > here : > - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/177440/wikidata/20120404_wikidata1.png > - http://dl.dropbox.com/u

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata logo proposal

2012-04-04 Thread Isabelle Ayel
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Is a mailing-list efficient to discuss the Wikidata project?

2012-04-04 Thread Sascha Ternes
I agree. I use digest mode, but still there are 5-10 mails. I would prefer two mails at most in digest mode. Sascha --- Betreff: Re: [Wikidata-l] Is a mailing-list efficient to discuss the Wikidata project? Von: aniketkarmar...@aniketkarmarkar.com Datum: 04.04.2

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata: New ISO Metadata standard MLR published last year

2012-04-04 Thread JFC Morfin
At 09:31 04/04/2012, Stracke, Christian wrote: Content-Language: de-DE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_6A1084EB7982C249A73604731699E2B611309D2EWIWINFEXDAG01wi_" Dear Denny, thanks for your feedback: indeed you have to pay for the MLR standards (as it is the business model

Re: [Wikidata-l] A common, open access, human and computer readable data pool for scientist

2012-04-04 Thread Sridhar Gutam
Gerd and brought out an important discussion. there is lots of data underutilized in agricultural research too. under the current research on climate change, we need to bring out the data stored in individual desktops and published literature for meaningful analysis. I am also looking for the oppo

[Wikidata-l] Wikidata logo proposal

2012-04-04 Thread Benjamin Bois
Hi all, I've just finish 3 versions for the Wikidata logo. I can't currently upload images in Wikimedia then the images are available here : - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/177440/wikidata/20120404_wikidata1.png - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/177440/wikidata/20120404_wikidata2.png - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1

[Wikidata-l] A common, open access, human and computer readable data pool for scientist

2012-04-04 Thread Leukippos Institute
Hi! I am a synthetic biologist. I see big changes in the way we do science and how we will publish in the future. I see a huge need to publish all scientific data (especially raw data) in a common free accessible data pool. This data should be machine readable. We face in science huge data amount

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata

2012-04-04 Thread Bináris
2012/4/4 emijrp > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Volunteers > > I became the second one with a few seconds. -- Bináris ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

Re: [Wikidata-l] data model draft published

2012-04-04 Thread Denny Vrandecic
I wish it was only two days… :) It was longer. Much longer. We will with time provide much less technical introductions to the data model, and how it is represented in the User Interface, the API, and the exports for JSON and RDF. Cheers, Denny On 4 Apr 2012, at 15:53, Lydia Pintscher wrote:

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata

2012-04-04 Thread emijrp
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Volunteers 2012/4/4 Lydia Pintscher > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 3:41 PM, emijrp wrote: > > Can we open a page where users add themselves by task? Wikiproject style. > > Why not... Do you want to create one? > > > Cheers > Lydia > > -- > Lydia Pintscher - htt

Re: [Wikidata-l] Introduction

2012-04-04 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Sofia Khatoon wrote: > Greetings. > I am a web developer and semantic technologies enthusiast. I will be happy > to volunteer for PHP development needs. > Sofia Khatoon Hi Sofia :) Great to hear. Keep an eye on this list over the next days. We're still figuring th

[Wikidata-l] data model draft published

2012-04-04 Thread Lydia Pintscher
Heya folks :) Over the last 2 days we worked on the data model for Wikidata. You can find the current state at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Data_model Please post any good feedback you have. This is a topic with a lot of bikeshed (http://bikeshed.com) potential. Let's try not to bikesh

[Wikidata-l] Introduction

2012-04-04 Thread Sofia Khatoon
Greetings. I am a web developer and semantic technologies enthusiast. I will be happy to volunteer for PHP development needs. Sofia Khatoon ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata

2012-04-04 Thread Dennis Tobar
I agree... there are many volunteers who wants participate in the project but we don't know in which tasks... On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:41 AM, emijrp wrote: > Can we open a page where users add themselves by task? Wikiproject style. > > 2012/4/4 Lydia Pintscher >> >> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 11:

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata

2012-04-04 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 3:41 PM, emijrp wrote: > Can we open a page where users add themselves by task? Wikiproject style. Why not... Do you want to create one? Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. E

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata

2012-04-04 Thread emijrp
Can we open a page where users add themselves by task? Wikiproject style. 2012/4/4 Lydia Pintscher > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 11:58 AM, emijrp wrote: > > 2012/4/4 Lydia Pintscher > >> Hi Antur, > >> > >> please watch this list over the next days. We're getting started and > >> are still figuring

[Wikidata-l] Spatial data definition

2012-04-04 Thread Andreas Trawoeger
Hi everybody! As the guy who has to honor to shortly receive some funding from Wikimedia Germany for handling spatial open government data [0] I would like to make some remarks on the current geo definitions in the Wikidata model: 1. Spatial Reference System Identifier (SRID [1]) definition is mi

Re: [Wikidata-l] Is a mailing-list efficient to discuss the Wikidata project?

2012-04-04 Thread Nadja Kutz
Am 04.04.2012 um 10:18 schrieb Bináris: > Nadja, > > 2012/4/4 Nadja Kutz > I had to guess its functionality (since i couldnt find any documentation), so > my guesses might be wrong: > one can list on that "my watchlist" wikimedia pages, by their titles, i.e. > by editing the "my watchlist" a

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata: New ISO Metadata standard MLR published last year

2012-04-04 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Stracke, Christian wrote: > You are mixing up reading and using of standards: > Unfortunately ISO standards are currently not freely available and you have > to pay for a copy. > ISO is changing slowly their business and we have already asked for making > these pa

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata: New ISO Metadata standard MLR published last year

2012-04-04 Thread Stracke, Christian
You are mixing up reading and using of standards: Unfortunately ISO standards are currently not freely available and you have to pay for a copy. ISO is changing slowly their business and we have already asked for making these particular standards available for free. (For some standards with broad

[Wikidata-l] meet the team

2012-04-04 Thread Lydia Pintscher
Heya :) I just published a blog post introducing the team that is employed by Wikimedia Germany to develop Wikidata. http://blog.wikimedia.de/2012/04/04/meet-the-wikidata-team/ Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia De

Re: [Wikidata-l] Multilinguistics matters

2012-04-04 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:58 AM, JFC Morfin wrote: > Lydia, > Thank you for your answers. They help us better understand your project. > > >> 2) Has this Wikidata project some Charter or terms of reference (TOR), or >> dedicated web site, you could give the URL? http://wikidata.org is > >> redirec

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata

2012-04-04 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 11:58 AM, emijrp wrote: > 2012/4/4 Lydia Pintscher >> Hi Antur, >> >> please watch this list over the next days. We're getting started and >> are still figuring out a good way for people to contribute in various >> ways. >> Do you already know in which area you'd like to co

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata

2012-04-04 Thread emijrp
2012/4/4 Lydia Pintscher > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Antur wrote: > > The project seems very important and interesting to me. I`m sysop in > spanish > > wiki and spanish wikiversidad. Tell me how can I help. Regards > > Hi Antur, > > please watch this list over the next days. We're getting

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata

2012-04-04 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Antur wrote: > The project seems very important and interesting to me. I`m sysop in spanish > wiki and spanish wikiversidad. Tell me how can I help. Regards Hi Antur, please watch this list over the next days. We're getting started and are still figuring out a goo

Re: [Wikidata-l] getting everyone on the same page + new twitter/identi.ca accounts

2012-04-04 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Bináris wrote: > Nice summary. > And I hope Wikidata will be friendly to different kinds of bots as they will > have much to do there. But this may fit into the last point (API). Yes :) There will be an API and it will be possible to create bots but we really want

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata: New ISO Metadata standard MLR published last year

2012-04-04 Thread Daniel Kinzler
On 04.04.2012 09:31, Stracke, Christian wrote: > Fourth, ISO standards can be used without any costs, without any licensing and > without any patent problems (if not clearly stated differently on the first > page). Why then does the website ask for payment? Can I read the standard online somewher

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data_model: Metamodel: Wikipedialink

2012-04-04 Thread Bináris
2012/4/3 Denny Vrandečić > We are going very soon to look into the actual data. If my current > assumption holds, that more than 99% of all links are simple 1:1 links, the > requirement for a more complex system might be deferred to later. Deferring is OK if it helps in quicker start and won't

Re: [Wikidata-l] Is a mailing-list efficient to discuss the Wikidata project?

2012-04-04 Thread Bináris
Nadja, 2012/4/4 Nadja Kutz > I had to guess its functionality (since i couldnt find any documentation), > so my guesses might be wrong: > one can list on that "my watchlist" wikimedia pages, by their titles, > i.e. by editing the "my watchlist" and by writing eg: > Wikidata > > You may edit it

Re: [Wikidata-l] communication media (was: Re: Notability in Wikidata)

2012-04-04 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Nadja Kutz wrote: > > Am 03.04.2012 um 16:17 schrieb Sumana Harihareswara: > >> Nadja, it sounds like you would be happiest following this mailing list >> via the gmane (forum-like) interface, which has already been set up for >> you!  Hurray! >> > > at least Isabel

Re: [Wikidata-l] Is a mailing-list efficient to discuss the Wikidata project?

2012-04-04 Thread Nadja Kutz
Am 04.04.2012 um 04:13 schrieb Bináris: > 2012/4/3 Isabelle Ayel > Bináris: Mediawiki has a wonderful tool named "my watchlist" which permit you > to receive emails from the wiki everytime a page of your interest is > modified. Then you can go on the page and argue with all the editors of this

[Wikidata-l] Hello!

2012-04-04 Thread VG
Hello everybody! My Wikipedia username is IWorld and I'll help on the Wikidata project. I have created 2 logo candidates. You can see that on the talk page of Wikidata (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikidata). I hope you like them. Sincerely, IWorld