Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata Transclusions

2012-06-14 Thread Gregor Hagedorn
While I agree that it is desirable to support simple, preformatted Infoboxes that can, with minimal effort be re-used in a large number of language versions of Wikipedia, I strongly disagree with the demand to make this the only choice. I think the present Wikidata approach to allow local Wikipedi

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata Transclusions

2012-06-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Technically there is nothing stopping Wikidata from hosting multiple infoboxes on the same subject. The big thing about such infoboxes is that their layout is the same for all subjects in the same category. This does not mean that every one looks the same but it does mean they follow a consist

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata Transclusions

2012-06-14 Thread Gregor Hagedorn
On 14 June 2012 12:33, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Finally, when Wikidata provides data and info boxes, it does not mean that > any project is compelled to use it. As Wikidata matures, it will become > increasingly clear that it is not the best practice. that may be, but Wikidata needs a path to get

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata Transclusions

2012-06-14 Thread jmcclure
"Wikidata publishing infoboxes and Wikipedias using them is again the client-server model." Not sure where this chestnut is coming from. Transclusion is as close to client-server as my cooking is to being gourmet! There's NO API. so I don't understand your commenst at all, sorry. On 13.06.

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata Transclusions

2012-06-14 Thread jmcclure
"I strongly disagree with the demand to make this the only choice." - Gregor, I'm a bit confused -- are you talking about the transclusion design approach in this statement? because, if so, I'd think there'd be a number of infobox "styles" that can be selected by an author on the wikidata plat

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata Transclusions

2012-06-14 Thread Gregor Hagedorn
> Gregor, I'm a bit confused -- are you talking about the transclusion design > approach in this statement? Yes, in the sense that it demands to be the only access to wiki data content in a Wikipedia. > because, if so, I'd think there'd be a number of > infobox "styles" that can be selected by an

[Wikidata-l] Wikidata test wikis are getting spammed

2012-06-14 Thread Erik Moeller
http://wikidata-test-client.wikimedia.de/wiki/Special:RecentChanges It might be best to limit editing, or try to rope stewards into running their anti-spambots there ... -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafound

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata test wikis are getting spammed

2012-06-14 Thread Snaevar
Can´t we just install the SpamBlacklist extension and add links to the blacklist - MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist http://is.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melding:Spam-blacklist ? I think the best way to combat spam is to identify the unwanted behaviour and then block it. No need to limit editing on the whole w

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata Transclusions

2012-06-14 Thread jmcclure
Gregor says> Or are you proposing to simply use the existing template programming with the only the difference that wikidata is the only mediawiki where the properties can be accessed within templates? Much of my argument assumes that you are looking for a non-template based infobox renderer, I

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata test wikis are getting spammed

2012-06-14 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > http://wikidata-test-client.wikimedia.de/wiki/Special:RecentChanges > > It might be best to limit editing, or try to rope stewards into > running their anti-spambots there ... Uff of course it could only be so long until spammers find the dem

Re: [Wikidata-l] [[meta:wikitopics]] updated

2012-06-14 Thread Nadja Kutz
John McClure wrote: "Of course, thanks for the pointer. Yes, I'd agree that 19788's ontology be closely reviewed for inclusion. 19788:2 standardizes the Dublin Core properties, the same I recommend for [[wikidata]] provenance data, the same slated for the [[wikidata]] ontology. But more to you

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata test wikis are getting spammed

2012-06-14 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, > One possibility would of course be to just reset the wiki every night to a pre-defined state. Would be nice to have it be installed from scratch and populated via a script every day or so. (Just restoring to a previous state might get annoying when we make a schema change or something.) Wi

Re: [Wikidata-l] [[meta:wikitopics]] updated

2012-06-14 Thread jmcclure
Hello Nadja, Topic maps do not populate a class model for whatever the wiki page represents --- good luck getting agreement on a class model for anything in WP, will not happen, imho TM itself has a small ontology as seen at [[meta:wikitopics]] --- topic map, topic, type, name, (name-) varia