Re: [Wikidata-l] is there a "schema" for the claims of a libraries collection ?

2013-03-14 Thread Michael Hale
I think you want it to be "Popular print". I changed it for you.http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1306119http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_print > From: rupert.thur...@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 06:29:24 +0100 > To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: [Wikidata-l] is there a "schema"

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-14 Thread Michael Hale
Yes, I think once qualifiers are enabled you would just have something like:...Property(head of local government)...Value(Elizabeth I) - Qualifier("1558-1603") - Sources()Value(James VI and I) - Qualifier("1603-1625") - Sources().. There was a discussion about whether qualif

[Wikidata-l] is there a "schema" for the claims of a libraries collection ?

2013-03-14 Thread rupert THURNER
hi, i am not even sure if i use the right vocabulary here, but is there some "schema" for claims or statements of a libraries collection? i wanted to add a type, and ended up linking it to "collection". the translation then revealed that it is from horses dressage http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q25

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-14 Thread Dario Taraborelli
Thanks Denny for the update and everybody else for the feedback. The cases I am particularly interested in are those of qualifiers to express that "Elizabeth I was Queen of England between 1558 and 1603", or that "the city of Vibo Valentia was in the Province of Catanzaro up to 1996, in the Pro

Re: [Wikidata-l] question about Inclusion policy discussion

2013-03-14 Thread Denny Vrandečić
That is a tough question. We are pretty sure that we technically scale quite well, and there is no reason that the community should restrict itself out of technical reasons. If the number of item suddenly increases by one or two orders of magnitudes, we would probably meet a few hiccups on the way,

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-14 Thread Michael Hale
A topic I've been involved in recently regards statistics for gun violence in the US. The government publishes a big report every year, but it takes them most of the year to collect the information from all of the local police agencies and compile the results. Several English Wikipedia articles

Re: [Wikidata-l] question about Inclusion policy discussion

2013-03-14 Thread Michael Hale
In general, I do like the idea of periodically collecting article references into Wikidata. They are a type of structured data that is associated with every article, and there are lots of interesting queries that would be easier to do if that information was in a structured database. I don't kno

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-14 Thread John Erling Blad
This has also been aired in other discussions. Outdated entries can both be something that is only valid within a set timeframe, but can also be dependent on something else. One special case is when an external source do not support a specific statement anymore. On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 11:59 AM, M

Re: [Wikidata-l] question about Inclusion policy discussion

2013-03-14 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Le 2013-03-14 02:09, Michael Hale a écrit : I think of Wikidata as the symbiotic version of Freebase. I won't say Freebase is a parasite, but I think a core aspect of Wikidata is that edits to the database will often feed back into the encyclopedia in various places. I haven't looked too much at

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The qualifiers, would that be something like ... if the language is English, the string can be a noun, a verb, an adjective When the sting is a Dutch noun, it can be masculine, feminine or neuter ?? When a qualifier allows for such constructs, we are halfway there to implementing a stru

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-14 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi Dario, two or three features are still missing to enable that (sorted in order we are probably going to deploy them): * qualifiers * the time datatype * statement ranks As soon as they are available, this can be modeled in a way that it can be useful for projects accessing the data. So, progr

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-14 Thread Michael Hale
So is the question whether there should be strong types for qualifiers as opposed to just a string with custom logic for each type of template box that will be displayed in articles? My opinion is that it is too difficult to know in advance how many and what types of qualifiers the data will hav

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-14 Thread Bináris
Such an old topic, and was unread in my mailbox by now. :-) Although having validity intervals in Data would be great, I think now, as we have Lua, there is a client-side approach at least for such specific data as DB's timetable that is interesting mostly for dewiki. -- Bináris