[Wikidata-l] Property P107

2013-03-21 Thread John McClure
-Original Message- From: denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data We will have a time datatype, and every property is strongly typed. This is also true for properties used as qualifiers. Regarding the

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-21 Thread Andrew Gray
On 21 March 2013 15:39, Michael Hale wrote: > Great post. Regarding the suggestions feature, it seems the easiest way to > get that rolling would be to have a bot that would periodically tally all of > the properties for all of the items that have an "is a" property with the > same value. Then we

Re: [Wikidata-l] Amsterdam + Wikimania hackathon + Wikimania

2013-03-21 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
I also plan to be in Amsterdam, would love to work closely with the wikidata team. --yurik On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 21 March 2013 14:26, Lydia Pintscher > wrote: > > Some of the Wikidata team will be at the MediaWiki hackathon in > > Amsterdam in late May > >

Re: [Wikidata-l] Amsterdam + Wikimania hackathon + Wikimania

2013-03-21 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 21 March 2013 14:26, Lydia Pintscher wrote: > Some of the Wikidata team will be at the MediaWiki hackathon in > Amsterdam in late May > (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Amsterdam_Hackathon_2013). It'd be > great to see some of you attend and join us in hacking on Wikidata. If > you're coming plea

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-21 Thread Michael Hale
Great post. Regarding the suggestions feature, it seems the easiest way to get that rolling would be to have a bot that would periodically tally all of the properties for all of the items that have an "is a" property with the same value. Then we could say most of the items with "is a _" have a _

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-21 Thread Denny Vrandečić
It really depends on your definitions :) Items are strongly typed as items. Any item can have any property. And only items can have properties. Time or geocoordinates, e.g., can not have properties. But yes, there is no forcing of properties onto any item, nor any restriction of usage of every pr

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-21 Thread Michael Hale
Yes, I just meant that items aren't forced to have a specific set of properties by the software, so they are essentially weakly typed, right? Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:09:58 +0100 From: denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for d

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-21 Thread Denny Vrandečić
We do have strong types, but only few of time: item, commons media, string, time, geo, URL. "Government leader" would not be a supported type. The exact list and details are here: < http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Data_model#Datatypes_and_their_Values > Cheers, Denny 2013/3/21 Michael

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-21 Thread Michael Hale
That seems better to constrain the overall type of a qualifier to any property. It still doesn't feel exactly right, but I'm not sure what would. Now that I think about it more, for the case of heads of government it doesn't seem appropriate to use a qualifier at all to me. It would just be a li

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-21 Thread Denny Vrandečić
We will have a time datatype, and every property is strongly typed. This is also true for properties used as qualifiers. Regarding the priority of qualifiers: very high. They are the next major UI feature to be deployed, and as far as I can tell from the progress of the team it looks like they wil

[Wikidata-l] Amsterdam + Wikimania hackathon + Wikimania

2013-03-21 Thread Lydia Pintscher
Heya folks :) Some of the Wikidata team will be at the MediaWiki hackathon in Amsterdam in late May (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Amsterdam_Hackathon_2013). It'd be great to see some of you attend and join us in hacking on Wikidata. If you're coming please let me know in advance so we can better

Re: [Wikidata-l] chancelier du reich, chancelier du reich und reichskanzler

2013-03-21 Thread Sylvain Boissel
Hello Thomas, There is a running RfC about this on http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/A_need_for_a_resolution_regarding_article_moves_and_redirects Regards, Sylvain. 2013/3/19 Thomas Douillard > 013/3/19 Bináris > >> >> >> 2013/3/19 rupert THURNER >> >>> wie würde ma

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-21 Thread Michael Hale
I think it will be about the same amount of work on the client side for templates either way. When would I use a coordinate as a qualifier? I can think of plenty of places where they would be used as property value datatypes, but not for qualifiers. What happens if someone was a head of governme

Re: [Wikidata-l] chancelier du reich, chancelier du reich und reichskanzler

2013-03-21 Thread Lydia Pintscher
Hey :) On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Thomas Douillard wrote: > I got a related question : some Interwikis in the old system points to: > * sections in an article in another language, > * or to article that are actually redirects on a section of another article. > > It seems that wikidata hav