Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 2 live on the first 11 Wikipedias

2013-03-27 Thread Jiang BIAN
It looks to me this is simply grant the editor the ability to refer content from wikidata.org (e.g. using {{#property:p169}} on page Yahoo). The content of the article hasn't been changed, right? Do you know the plan to start migrating data by bots? Thanks 2013/3/28 Lydia Pintscher > Heya fo

Re: [Wikidata-l] The first question after deployment of phase 2

2013-03-27 Thread Daniel Kinzler
On 27.03.2013 20:40, Lydia Pintscher wrote: > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Bináris wrote: >> This is the first Wikidata 2 edit in Hungarian Wikipedia: >> http://hu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Magyarorsz%C3%A1g&curid=115&diff=13394408&oldid=13378794 > > Yay :) > >> I tried to replace the

Re: [Wikidata-l] The first question after deployment of phase 2

2013-03-27 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Bináris wrote: > This is the first Wikidata 2 edit in Hungarian Wikipedia: > http://hu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Magyarorsz%C3%A1g&curid=115&diff=13394408&oldid=13378794 Yay :) > I tried to replace the official language first, but it is linked in the > info

Re: [Wikidata-l] A data model for Roman forts (castra)

2013-03-27 Thread Saturnian
I will wait, no problem :-) . Even if some features are not present, it's good to have clear ideas in mind. Maybe I should start proposing properties because I don't know how long will take the acceptance of such fancy properties like "construction phases of castra" :-) On 03/27/2013 09:07 PM,

[Wikidata-l] The first question after deployment of phase 2

2013-03-27 Thread Bináris
This is the first Wikidata 2 edit in Hungarian Wikipedia: http://hu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Magyarorsz%C3%A1g&curid=115&diff=13394408&oldid=13378794 I tried to replace the official language first, but it is linked in the infobox as [[magyar nyelv|magyar]]. How can I use properties here? Th

Re: [Wikidata-l] A data model for Roman forts (castra)

2013-03-27 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Oh, I would please ask to wait another week or two, for us to have qualifiers. Maybe they can deal with some of these cases. We just got them demoed today, and they really look neat, so I am very convinced they will be there with the next update. 2013/3/27 Michael Hale > I think you can use ei

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 2 live on the first 11 Wikipedias

2013-03-27 Thread Bináris
Congratulations!!! And it has just been announced in huwiki. 2013/3/27 Lydia Pintscher > Heya folks :) > > Data inclusion from Wikidata is now now possible on the first 11 > Wikipedias. Woh! > http://blog.wikimedia.de/2013/03/27/you-can-have-all-the-data/ has more > details. > > > Ch

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 2 live on the first 11 Wikipedias

2013-03-27 Thread Marco Fleckinger
Congratulations! Cheers Marco On 03/27/2013 07:54 PM, Lydia Pintscher wrote: Heya folks :) Data inclusion from Wikidata is now now possible on the first 11 Wikipedias. Woh! http://blog.wikimedia.de/2013/03/27/you-can-have-all-the-data/ has more details. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintsc

Re: [Wikidata-l] A data model for Roman forts (castra)

2013-03-27 Thread Michael Hale
I think you can use either in other contexts. I see the tradeoff being that the inclusion syntax and templates for referring to properties of another item might be slightly longer. For the example of children of Charles Dickens you definitely want to have each child be their own item, as it curr

[Wikidata-l] phase 2 live on the first 11 Wikipedias

2013-03-27 Thread Lydia Pintscher
Heya folks :) Data inclusion from Wikidata is now now possible on the first 11 Wikipedias. Woh! http://blog.wikimedia.de/2013/03/27/you-can-have-all-the-data/ has more details. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikim

Re: [Wikidata-l] A data model for Roman forts (castra)

2013-03-27 Thread Saturnian
Thanks Denny and Michael, it really helps. It is indeed a major difference between string enumerations of XSD and the values that should link to other items resulting in a knowledge network. Choosing between lists of values and own item as value, I would prefer usuallyan own item because it co

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata introductory talk - London, April 26

2013-03-27 Thread Sven
Seconded. Sven On Mar 26, 2013, at 3:27 PM, "omshivaprak...@gmail.com" wrote: > yes, a recording of this session would be good :) > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Andrew Gray > wrote: > I haven't been making a practice of recording workshops, but if you think > there's a demand we

Re: [Wikidata-l] A data model for Roman forts (castra)

2013-03-27 Thread Michael Hale
Regarding the construction phases complex type that you want you have a couple of options. Properties support lists of values, so you could split the type into multiple properties and give a list of values for each. Then when qualifiers are added you could add a date range qualifier to each valu

Re: [Wikidata-l] A data model for Roman forts (castra)

2013-03-27 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I would say this is a good starting point. The Wikidata data model is described in full detail here [1], and a introductory primer is given here [2]. Qualifiers are not implemented yet, but will be there soon, and followed by more datatypes (like time, geo, etc.). The major difference is that valu

Re: [Wikidata-l] A data model for Roman forts (castra)

2013-03-27 Thread Flaviu
I fully agree with you that the XSD model cannot by precisely integrated into Wikidata and also I know Wikidata development is in progress. I think I could deal with simple properties like "material" but I'm not sure how to deal with complex properties like "construction phases" I'm not sure. E