Re: [Wikidata-l] Running "Infobox film" import script

2013-04-02 Thread Michael Hale
Good eye. Outlook webmail seems to double-encode if I paste a link while using Chrome, but not IE. Spending too much time trying to fix things like that only to realize that it would be bad for their brand identity if all of the issues like that were ever fixed is why I had to get out of the cor

Re: [Wikidata-l] Running "Infobox film" import script

2013-04-02 Thread Tom Morris
The original URL is a 400 (looks like it's double URL encoded), but the version you quoted works fine. If you end up with %2527 in your browser bar, correct it to just %27 (apostrophes in the URL aren't such a great idea to start with though). Tom On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Ed Summers wro

Re: [Wikidata-l] Running "Infobox film" import script

2013-04-02 Thread Michael Hale
I can't reproduce the error here (using Chrome too). Anyone else? > Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 14:44:24 -0400 > From: e...@pobox.com > To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Running "Infobox film" import script > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 5:25 AM, Michael Hale wrote: > > http:/

Re: [Wikidata-l] Running "Infobox film" import script

2013-04-02 Thread Ed Summers
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 5:25 AM, Michael Hale wrote: > http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Wakebrdkid%27s_bot/code I got a 400 when fetching this (in Chrome). //Ed ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mai

Re: [Wikidata-l] How does wikidata handle topic redirect/merge/split

2013-04-02 Thread TanchocA
Understood. Thank you! Best Regards, Alex On Apr 2, 2013, at 2:08 PM, "Denny Vrandečić" mailto:denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de>> wrote: Hi Alex, the current implementation of Wikidata supports the same level of history as MediaWiki itself, i.e. templates, images from Commons, and data from Wiki

Re: [Wikidata-l] How does wikidata handle topic redirect/merge/split

2013-04-02 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi Alex, the current implementation of Wikidata supports the same level of history as MediaWiki itself, i.e. templates, images from Commons, and data from Wikidata have their own versioning scheme, and all information about their history is retained -- but when a page is rendered from a previous v

Re: [Wikidata-l] Running "Infobox film" import script

2013-04-02 Thread Magnus Manske
That sounds good in principle, but people might get upset ("why did we put this into Wikipedia then?") A compromise could be to import from (in this example) both Wikipedia and IMDb, add both as a reference to the same claim if they agree, and separately if not. We can then deal with the contradic

Re: [Wikidata-l] How does wikidata handle topic redirect/merge/split

2013-04-02 Thread TanchocA
Thank you Michael (and apologies to Denny for being addressed as Danny). We all know change is a constant and we need to design information technology with that in mind. As you noted, population is a great example of something that is constantly changing. Including a date with population makes

Re: [Wikidata-l] Running "Infobox film" import script

2013-04-02 Thread Michael Hale
I think that's a fine threshold, but it will probably vary some per the type of data. Our goal is ultimately that every claim will have a reference, and then we can sort of pass the burden of accuracy on to the references. Wikipedia has grown well with that principle. Adding references will be m

Re: [Wikidata-l] How does wikidata handle topic redirect/merge/split

2013-04-02 Thread Michael Hale
Well you can still view the revision history of an item on Wikidata, as you'd expect. I view the information as being more tied to a specific reference than to a specific revision of the item. I don't think the notion of "orphaned" data is as big of a deal in a database as it is in an encycloped

Re: [Wikidata-l] Running "Infobox film" import script

2013-04-02 Thread Tom Morris
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:58 AM, Michael Hale wrote: > It will definitely have some errors, but I scanned the results for the > first 100 movies before I started importing them, and I think the value-add > will be much greater than the number of errors. > Does Wikidata have a quality goal or erro

Re: [Wikidata-l] How does wikidata handle topic redirect/merge/split

2013-04-02 Thread TanchocA
Hi Danny, I'm been on the distribution list since the development of wikidata started and I think what everyone has set out to do and accomplished so far is amazing and will have a profound impact just as Wikipedia has. I've been quietly on the sidelines absorbing some (I have to admit I cant

Re: [Wikidata-l] How does wikidata handle topic redirect/merge/split

2013-04-02 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi Janyong, as Michael said, Wikidata does not automatically get updated in any case. We are planning to improve a bit the experience with moving a page in the Wikipedias, but it won't become automatic. Mostly because these issues are in general complicated. 2013/4/1 Jianyong Zhang > Hi, > > W

Re: [Wikidata-l] Running "Infobox film" import script

2013-04-02 Thread Michael Hale
It's a bit sloppy in some areas, but I'll improve it as I need it to do more things. From: hale.michael...@live.com To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 05:25:14 -0400 Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Running "Infobox film" import script http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Wakebrdk

Re: [Wikidata-l] Running "Infobox film" import script

2013-04-02 Thread Michael Hale
http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Wakebrdkid%27s_bot/code > Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 05:10:22 -0400 > From: e...@pobox.com > To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Running "Infobox film" import script > > Hi Michael, > > Is the code for your bot publicly available somewhere?

Re: [Wikidata-l] Running "Infobox film" import script

2013-04-02 Thread Ed Summers
Hi Michael, Is the code for your bot publicly available somewhere? //Ed On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:58 AM, Michael Hale wrote: > I've been practicing using the Wikidata and MediaWiki APIs today. Even > though the Wikidata API is still being developed, using it was more pleasant > than parsing the

Re: [Wikidata-l] Running "Infobox film" import script

2013-04-02 Thread Michael Hale
Thanks for the guidance. The bot is now working properly at the preferred rate of no more than 5 edits per minute. From: hale.michael...@live.com To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 02:01:47 -0400 Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Running "Infobox film" import script Ok, I create