Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 2 live on the first 11 Wikipedias

2013-04-22 Thread Jan Kučera
Why are there so many properties waiting on http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Pending then??? 2013/3/29 Michael Hale > It would be nice to never have to do any additional validation on the > client, but in general I'm pretty sure it's impossible to specify server > validat

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 2 live on the first 11 Wikipedias

2013-04-22 Thread Luca Martinelli
2013/4/22 Jan Kučera : > Why are there so many properties waiting on > http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Pending then??? All these properties are waiting for the development of their respective datatype. If you're asking why phase 2 is already live on several Wikipedias, it

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 2 live on the first 11 Wikipedias

2013-04-22 Thread Michael Hale
Well, there is a trade-off. If we have too few types then it is harder for clients to use the data and inconsistencies might slip in. But if we delay the approval of too many properties because we want more types then we risk unnecessarily slowing the growth of the database. It's all binary info

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 2 live on the first 11 Wikipedias

2013-04-22 Thread Magnus Manske
AFAIK the hold-up is because the "numbers" data type should also be able to carry an uncertainty, and a unit. Not really necessary for "number of floors", but for plenty of other applications. On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Michael Hale wrote: > Well, there is a trade-off. If we have too few

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 2 live on the first 11 Wikipedias

2013-04-22 Thread Michael Hale
Sure, I'm just wondering if it might be better to just go ahead and approve something like "number of floors" as a string, and then once numbers are supported we could try to automatically convert all of those strings to numbers and either delete or manually fix the errors that we find. From: m

[Wikidata-l] Fwd: [Dbpedia-gsoc] Google Summer of Code update (Wikidata + DBpedia, Guidelines, deadline)

2013-04-22 Thread Sebastian Hellmann
Hi all, I streamlined your ideas about the Wikidata GSoC projects with our description: http://wiki.dbpedia.org/gsoc2013/ideas/WikidataMappings Not sure, whether there can be joint or duplicate applications (e.g. one student applying at both organizations with the same proposal ) ... I guess

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 2 live on the first 11 Wikipedias

2013-04-22 Thread Tom Morris
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 6:32 AM, Michael Hale wrote: > Sure, I'm just wondering if it might be better to just go ahead and approve > something like "number of floors" as a string, and then once numbers are > supported we could try to automatically convert all of those strings to > numbers and eith

Re: [Wikidata-l] How does wikidata handle topic redirect/merge/split

2013-04-22 Thread Denny Vrandečić
2013/4/7 Jianyong Zhang > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 9:54 PM, Denny Vrandečić < > denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > >> 2013/4/1 Jianyong Zhang >> >>> 1) It becomes redirect to another article, will Qx be changed in this >>> scenario? >>> >>> >> I expect that if a Wikipedia article gets moved,

Re: [Wikidata-l] How does wikidata handle topic redirect/merge/split

2013-04-22 Thread Thomas Douillard
Someone suggested to use for those cases what we call on french wikipedia "short article"* (articles courts), *articles with a short description and a (soft) redirect to the section in the main article. This may be an interesting solution.* * 2013/4/22 Denny Vrandečić > > 2013/4/7 Jianyong Zhan

[Wikidata-l] Our log table is exploding

2013-04-22 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hey all, I just got a warning from Ops that our log table is growing extremely fast. One write up by this is here: Basically, a vast majority of edits on Wikidata are written to the log table as they are autopatrolled. And since we have a lo

[Wikidata-l] phase 2 live on English Wikipedia

2013-04-22 Thread Lydia Pintscher
Heya folks :) Phase 2 is not live on English Wikipedia. For more details please see http://blog.wikimedia.de/?p=14896 The remaining Wikipedias are still scheduled for Wednesday. At the same time we have enabled a new feature that lets you add another language link to an article without having to

Re: [Wikidata-l] Our log table is exploding

2013-04-22 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Denny Vrandečić, 22/04/2013 18:35: We want to understand how that influences your workflows and what we can do about that. Please speak up if this change would be an issue. What change? I don't understand from your email what you're actually going to do. This RC patrolling setup is quite comm

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 2 live on English Wikipedia

2013-04-22 Thread Daniel Kinzler
On 22.04.2013 21:23, Lydia Pintscher wrote: > Heya folks :) > > Phase 2 is not live on English Wikipedia. For more details please see > http://blog.wikimedia.de/?p=14896 I suppose it is *now* live on English Wikipedia :) -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler, Softwarearchitekt Wikimedia Deutschland - Ge

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 2 live on English Wikipedia

2013-04-22 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Daniel Kinzler wrote: > On 22.04.2013 21:23, Lydia Pintscher wrote: >> Heya folks :) >> >> Phase 2 is not live on English Wikipedia. For more details please see >> http://blog.wikimedia.de/?p=14896 > > I suppose it is *now* live on English Wikipedia :) -.- Yes of

Re: [Wikidata-l] GSoC projects related to Wikidata

2013-04-22 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Lydia Pintscher wrote: > Heya folks :) > > 3 organizations offer projects related to Wikidata as part of GSoC > 2013. More details at http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:GSoC > I hope the students among you consider applying. It's an amazing > opportunity to get

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 2 live on English Wikipedia

2013-04-22 Thread Dennis Tobar
Hey, congrats!... For "other wikipedias", is confirmed the Wednesday as day to launch it? (of course, if Mercury doesn't align with Jupiter and an astronomical event avoids the implementation = nothing strange interferes with the release) On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Lydia Pintscher < lydia.

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 2 live on English Wikipedia

2013-04-22 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Dennis Tobar wrote: > Hey, congrats!... > > For "other wikipedias", is confirmed the Wednesday as day to launch it? (of > course, if Mercury doesn't align with Jupiter and an astronomical event > avoids the implementation = nothing strange interferes with the relea

Re: [Wikidata-l] Our log table is exploding

2013-04-22 Thread Jeremy Baron
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Denny Vrandečić, 22/04/2013 18:35: >> We want to understand how that influences your workflows and what we can >> do about that. >> Please speak up if this change would be an issue. > > What change? I don't understand from your email w

Re: [Wikidata-l] Our log table is exploding

2013-04-22 Thread swuensch
A big feature for botuseres would be the possibility to change everythingon an item at once (like descriptions, labels and interwikilinks yet but with claims, references and qualifiers too). This would decrease the bot edits by a factor of 2 (as most of the bots add a claim and then a reference).

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 2 live on the first 11 Wikipedias

2013-04-22 Thread Michael Hale
I'm not sure. By infobox chaos do you mean vandalism? I don't think you can eliminate vandalism through stronger types. I've seen people randomly change the population of Asia to a random number with the same number of digits. The most extreme constraint would be to disallow any information that

Re: [Wikidata-l] Our log table is exploding

2013-04-22 Thread Platonides
On 22/04/13 21:59, Jeremy Baron wrote: > On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: >> Denny Vrandečić, 22/04/2013 18:35: >>> We want to understand how that influences your workflows and what we can >>> do about that. >>> Please speak up if this change would be an issue. >> >> Wha

Re: [Wikidata-l] Our log table is exploding

2013-04-22 Thread Sven
Please pardon the non-tech person, as I may be asking a question with obvious answers, but what, exactly, is the problem here? Storage space is cheap and logs are text, which takes up very little space... Sven On Apr 22, 2013, at 6:19 PM, Platonides wrote: > On 22/04/13 21:59, Jeremy Baron wr