Re: [Wikidata-l] Is an ecosystem of Wikidatas possible?

2013-06-21 Thread Jane Darnell
I was thinking about items vs properties and Commons. I am not sure a "F" entity is necessary. In theory, each file on Commons can be linked to another one, and each item on WikiData can be linked to another one, but those links do not necessarily need to interconnect with Commons. If a Commons fil

[Wikidata-l] weekly summary #63

2013-06-21 Thread Lydia Pintscher
Heya folks :) Here's your summary of what happened around Wikidata this week: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Status_updates/2013_06_21 Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Technical Projects Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentraut

Re: [Wikidata-l] Some Wiktionary data in Wikidata

2013-06-21 Thread David Cuenca
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Daniel Kinzler wrote: > For literature grade translations, that is, for a true dictionary, I > believe > that you need to full range of nuances attached to each word and each word > sense, which is distinct from the platonic concepts described by data > items. >

Re: [Wikidata-l] Is an ecosystem of Wikidatas possible?

2013-06-21 Thread David Cuenca
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Denny Vrandečić < denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > I agree that the different projects have different requirements. But I > think we should strive for a small number of "Wikidatas" - you could have > made the same argument for Commons, after all. > The two

Re: [Wikidata-l] Some Wiktionary data in Wikidata

2013-06-21 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 21.06.2013 14:44, schrieb Gerard Meijssen: > Hoi, > > Denny, when you look at the data currently in Wikidata, you find what is in > essence more than a basis for a translation dictionary. I would say it's excellent as a thesaurus which can be used for cross-lingual tagging, named entity recogn

Re: [Wikidata-l] Some Wiktionary data in Wikidata

2013-06-21 Thread Sven Manguard
Did you mean to say "We do *not* need another Wikidata"? Otherwise I am confused by your comment. On Jun 21, 2013 12:08 PM, "Jan Dudík" wrote: > > Ww do need another wikidata, only separate namespace for "items" > (words) and some separate properties > > JAnD > > > 2013/6/21 Gerard Meijssen : >

Re: [Wikidata-l] Some Wiktionary data in Wikidata

2013-06-21 Thread Jan Dudík
Ww do need another wikidata, only separate namespace for "items" (words) and some separate properties JAnD 2013/6/21 Gerard Meijssen : We do not need another Wikidata for Wiktionary > > Thanks, > GerarM > ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-

Re: [Wikidata-l] Some Wiktionary data in Wikidata

2013-06-21 Thread Denny Vrandečić
It was never intended to create a Wiktionary Database separate from Wikidata, but have it being a part of Wikidata. 2013/6/21 Gerard Meijssen > Hoi, > > Denny, when you look at the data currently in Wikidata, you find what is > in essence more than a basis for a translation dictionary. > > Th

Re: [Wikidata-l] Some Wiktionary data in Wikidata

2013-06-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Denny, when you look at the data currently in Wikidata, you find what is in essence more than a basis for a translation dictionary. The notion that we need something separate is a notion you should reasses. What we need is some clean-up of the labels currently in use. What we also need are m

Re: [Wikidata-l] Some Wiktionary data in Wikidata

2013-06-21 Thread Antoine Amarilli
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 03:59:13PM +0100, Neil Harris wrote: > WordNet does not seem to be under a free license -- see > > http://wordnet.princeton.edu/wordnet/license/ > > Since Wikidata's CC0 licensing allows commercial use, surely > integrating any kind of data from WordNet risks conflict with

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Wikisource-l] Impressions from LODLAM 2013

2013-06-21 Thread Andrea Zanni
Hi David, really thanks for this email. I'm at OAI8 (conference of Open Access in Geneva), with several fellow wikimedians, and I'd like to express some thoughts related to yours. On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 6:47 AM, David Cuenca wrote: > All this led me to think about the emotional vs rational rewa

Re: [Wikidata-l] Some Wiktionary data in Wikidata

2013-06-21 Thread Denny Vrandečić
done this change. 2013/6/20 Denny Vrandečić > Thinking about it again, and discussing it internally, maybe we should > replace "word" with "expression" and "meaning" with "sense"? > > Any +1's or differing opinions? > > > 2013/6/20 Denny Vrandečić > >> The current proposal does not cover gramm