Re: [Wikidata-l] Users do understand Wikidata less than before

2014-10-12 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 4:01 AM, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com wrote: For more than a year I am asking users to add their articles to Wikidata when they have written it. That seems succesful, they added their articles more and more and did understand how to do that. Until recently. Now I

Re: [Wikidata-l] Users do understand Wikidata less than before

2014-10-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The complaint that Wikidata serves an in-crowd is something that I feel is correct. It follows from being overly interested in the academic side of things. All the work by the professional developers is for esoteric things and much if not most of the work does not translate into things that

Re: [Wikidata-l] Users do understand Wikidata less than before

2014-10-12 Thread Susanna Ånäs
Hi! I would like to do advocacy for taking advantage of Wikidata to wikimedians, researchers, the public sector and GLAMs (and others), but I lack the tools and methods to do so. Wikimedians: Very few wikimedians in our country participate in the Wikidata community. There is not a local

Re: [Wikidata-l] Users do understand Wikidata less than before

2014-10-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Susanna you are completely right. Wikidata is there to serve a purpose. It means that we should work on realising tools that use Wikidata and do a better job at it. I blogged today about awards and how Wikidata can make a difference [1]. It takes not much to realise it but I have all but

Re: [Wikidata-l] Users do understand Wikidata less than before

2014-10-12 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hello Lydia, This is a different problem from the other issue I described in an other mail. I notice two different problems that occur with the same version. One is about the workflow, one is about less experienced/less technical users have difficulties in adding site links. I am happy hearing

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Multimedia] Inclusion criteria for Wikidata items for paintings, engravings, illustrations, manuscript folios, photographs, old postcards, etc ?

2014-10-12 Thread Jane Darnell
I think the place for all data about an image should be Wikidata. It will be trivial to update a Wikidata item with an image when that image becomes available on Commons. Until that time, the item can point to a catalog's online or offline entry where the image can be viewed. I am thinking for