[Wikidata-l] Property P107

-Original Message- From: denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data We will have a time datatype, and every property is strongly typed. This is also true for properties used as qualifiers. Regarding the

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata, ISO and chembox

Hi Lydia! I don't think you're hearing the question. A reply y'all gave on the issue was that any standard used by Wikidata needed to be 100% open-source -- no money required as in free. Even though what is being charged by ISO to support its business model is a PITTANCE in my humble opinion...

Re: [Wikidata-l] Namespace-based model

deed necessary. If a distinction between nouns and adjectives is made, then one type + multiple facets is necessary. -Original Message- From: John McClure [mailto:jmccl...@hypergrove.com] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 7:08 PM To: Wikidata (E-mail) Subject: [Wikidata-l] Namespace-b

[Wikidata-l] Namespace-based model

Denny said: I think the assumption everything has exactly one type is oversimplifying The assumption that everything is of multiple types is over-complicating. Usually you can tell from the first sentence in the Wikipedia page. "Tuesday is a day of the week" "Love is an emotion" "(Roman) Catholic

Re: [Wikidata-l] SNAK -> assertion?

Hi Denny - Correct - URI opaqueness is required at the level of exchange but there's no such requirement internal to an application. During exchange, sure you can add a triple to assert that Density is the type of the object France#Density:2012_pop_estimate_Bilan_2010. Outside of exchange, type can

Re: [Wikidata-l] (no subject)

Hi Denny - Correct - URI opaqueness is required at the level of exchange but there's no such requirement internal to an application. During exchange, sure you can add a triple to assert that Density is the type of the object France#Density:2012_pop_estimate_Bilan_2010. Outside of exchange, type can

Re: [Wikidata-l] SNAK -> assertion?

Denny said: you forgot to add something like France#Density:2012_pop_estimate_Bilan_2010 property Density . No I did not forget anything, given the Density 'namespace' in the subobject name. IOW your triple merely restates what is discernible from the subobject name. Maybe you should tell me what

Re: [Wikidata-l] Type namespace

Denny said: "if I understand topic maps correctly it should be trivial to write a transformer that takes the export that Wikidata will offer and translates it into topic maps, if you are so inclined. This way the topic maps community can be served through that transformer easily, be it a web servic

Re: [Wikidata-l] SNAK -> assertion?

Denny said: But if you find a simpler, and more RDFish way to express the (below) statement, please feel free to enlighten me. I would be indeed very interested. "The population density of France, as of an 2012 estimate, is 116 per square kilometer, according to the "Bilan demographique 2010"." A

Re: [Wikidata-l] Type namespace

Hi Denny - Thanks for your reply and I am relieved. The design seems in the process of walking towards looking quite alot like ISO Topic Maps, I must say, because it designates no wall of separation between classes and topics. Today that wall exists in SMW in the dichotomy of Category vs all-other-

[Wikidata-l] Namespace-based model

Wiki namespaces are currently so underused people may not realize their importance: they provide crucial semantic information. For instance, consider the example given in Wikidata's data model article[1] "Obama was US Senator from Illinois from January 3, 2005 to November 16, 2008" which yielded

[Wikidata-l] Type namespace

ain, this note does *not* seek perfection, it is seeking to identify and to learn from our experiences. My experience is that the Category namespace has been functionally overloaded to the detriment of 'good' system design. John McClure ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

[Wikidata-l] Topic Map Datamodel

Sorry about a blank subject before... Came across a good CalTech presentation called Relevance of Topic Maps at http://www.cacr.caltech.edu/semast/files/mahabal.pdf The presentation has the infamous Cregan datamodel on page 5. The question is why not use this already-certified ISO datamodel being

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wiki Subject Indexes

iki Subject Indexes Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Mar 31, 2012, at 02:00 , John McClure wrote: > Hello, > Can/should wiki subject indexes be a functional requirement of the wikidata > project, or of some other? I think navigating a wiki today

[Wikidata-l] (no subject)

hatever that is intended to be. Thanks, John Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:22:43 +0200 From: Ivan Herman To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Wiki Subject Indexes Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Mar 31, 2012, at 02

[Wikidata-l] Wiki Subject Indexes

Hello, Can/should wiki subject indexes be a functional requirement of the wikidata project, or of some other? I think navigating a wiki today without a subject index is difficult, to say the least. A subject index seems such a critical component for information libraries! WP's portals are a nice s

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Wikitech-l] Topic Maps

iki.org] >Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 7:43 AM >To: jmccl...@hypergrove.com >Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Topic Maps > > >On 21/03/12 13:06, John McClure wrote: >> (1) official ISO versions are purchaseable while unofficial >versions are >> foss. > >Ok, that&#