Re: [Wikidata-l] A common, open access, human and computer readable data pool for scientist

2012-04-05 Thread Leukippos Institute
Great comments! Thank you. I think that the storage capacity might be not such a big problem at all. The data can be stored on the respective scientists webpage and a pointer could be used. Only the pointer needs to be stored on the server. I personally think that there is a need for a semantic web

Re: [Wikidata-l] A common, open access, human and computer readable data pool for scientist

2012-04-05 Thread Denny Vrandečić
ists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *emijrp > *Sent:* Thursday, April 05, 2012 12:25 PM > *To:* Discussion list for the Wikidata project. > *Subject:* Re: [Wikidata-l] A common, open access, human and computer > readable data pool for scientist > > ** ** > > Ah, ok. There

Re: [Wikidata-l] A common, open access, human and computer readable data pool for scientist

2012-04-05 Thread Oren Bochman
Oren Bochman From: wikidata-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikidata-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of emijrp Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 12:25 PM To: Discussion list for the Wikidata project. Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] A common, open access, human and computer readable data

Re: [Wikidata-l] A common, open access, human and computer readable data pool for scientist

2012-04-05 Thread JFC Morfin
Lydia wrote: I would like that this project could serve in that manner the scientific community and provide standards for submission of data for scientist. Any plans in this direction? The en.wikipedia page on "big data" should give the answers, if it was kept current with the current "Big Dat

Re: [Wikidata-l] A common, open access, human and computer readable data pool for scientist

2012-04-05 Thread emijrp
Ah, ok. There will be wikidatafarms like Wikia-data : ) 2012/4/5 Lydia Pintscher > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:07 PM, emijrp wrote: > > 2012/4/5 Lydia Pintscher > >> > >> However if this is not going to happen in Wikidata > >> itself there is probably demand for a separate instance where this >

Re: [Wikidata-l] A common, open access, human and computer readable data pool for scientist

2012-04-05 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:07 PM, emijrp wrote: > 2012/4/5 Lydia Pintscher >> >> However if this is not going to happen in Wikidata >> itself there is probably demand for a separate instance where this >> would be possible. >> > > What do you mean? What I mean is that if this can't be done in Wik

Re: [Wikidata-l] A common, open access, human and computer readable data pool for scientist

2012-04-05 Thread emijrp
2012/4/5 Lydia Pintscher > However if this is not going to happen in Wikidata > itself there is probably demand for a separate instance where this > would be possible. > > What do you mean? ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org http

Re: [Wikidata-l] A common, open access, human and computer readable data pool for scientist

2012-04-05 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Leukippos Institute wrote: > Hi! > > I am a synthetic biologist. I see big changes in the way we do science > and how we will publish in the future. > > I see a huge need to publish all scientific data (especially raw data) > in a common free accessible data pool. T

Re: [Wikidata-l] A common, open access, human and computer readable data pool for scientist

2012-04-04 Thread Platonides
On 04/04/12 19:13, emijrp wrote: > I'm not sure if that kind of data will be desirable at Wikidata (not my > personal opinion, just thinking about community). > > For example, a lot of city articles contain info about temperature and > precipitation[1], but, are we going to import into Wikidata al

Re: [Wikidata-l] A common, open access, human and computer readable data pool for scientist

2012-04-04 Thread Platonides
On 04/04/12 21:08, Oren Bochman wrote: > I would imagine developing such an acdemiwiki could be to developed > quite quickly once MW matures. I would need cloud based storage, a > source control system, advanced means of authentications. P2P > capabilities. But almost all of these things now are av

Re: [Wikidata-l] A common, open access, human and computer readable data pool for scientist

2012-04-04 Thread Oren Bochman
My 2 cents I have give the subject of academic wiki some thought in the last 6 months. I mean a wiki that could replace the paper journal and its publisher. But it would need a different collaboration model, In any sense that affects thier income the Academia is quite conservative - almost backwar

Re: [Wikidata-l] A common, open access, human and computer readable data pool for scientist

2012-04-04 Thread emijrp
I think that the problem is that Wikidata is not a storage in "the cloud" for all kind of scientific data. In the same fashion Wikipedia is not a portal for papers or academic publications, essays, lyrics, etc. Wikidata scope is not well defined yet, but it will have its limits, for sure. 2012/4/4

Re: [Wikidata-l] A common, open access, human and computer readable data pool for scientist

2012-04-04 Thread Leukippos Institute
Emijrp The storage limit of the sever is a great point. In biomedicine is this also of importance - see e.g. the second generation sequencing data. One might need to go together with NIH and eventually Google to discuss this matter. As a first effort might be a doable focused database desirable. I

Re: [Wikidata-l] A common, open access, human and computer readable data pool for scientist

2012-04-04 Thread emijrp
I'm not sure if that kind of data will be desirable at Wikidata (not my personal opinion, just thinking about community). For example, a lot of city articles contain info about temperature and precipitation[1], but, are we going to import into Wikidata all the temperature values from 1900 to prese

Re: [Wikidata-l] A common, open access, human and computer readable data pool for scientist

2012-04-04 Thread Sridhar Gutam
Gerd and brought out an important discussion. there is lots of data underutilized in agricultural research too. under the current research on climate change, we need to bring out the data stored in individual desktops and published literature for meaningful analysis. I am also looking for the oppo

[Wikidata-l] A common, open access, human and computer readable data pool for scientist

2012-04-04 Thread Leukippos Institute
Hi! I am a synthetic biologist. I see big changes in the way we do science and how we will publish in the future. I see a huge need to publish all scientific data (especially raw data) in a common free accessible data pool. This data should be machine readable. We face in science huge data amount