[WikiEN-l] Abolishing image placeholders; again

2008-12-06 Thread Andrew Gray
This has been discussed at some length on this list before (ad infinitum, as I recall), and people might like to know it seems to have discreetly moved to the next stage: IFD. This is, what, round four? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Images_and_media_for_deletion/2008_December_6 -- - And

Re: [WikiEN-l] Has an article in a paper encyclopedia, but it's "Not Notable"

2008-12-06 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > 2008/12/3 Anthony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> > >> 2008/12/2 Sigvat Kuekiatngam Stensholt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> > I am in one sense amused,

[WikiEN-l] Serious problems with interlanguage links

2008-12-06 Thread Lukasz Bolikowski
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I've done some research on the network of interlanguage links as a whole, you can see the results here: http://wikitools.icm.edu.pl/ I wrote to this list earlier this year about incoherences in the interlanguage links, but two things have chang

Re: [WikiEN-l] Serious problems with interlanguage links

2008-12-06 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
Lukasz Bolikowski schreef: > A short introduction: let's say that two articles are connected if there > is an interlanguage link from one to the other in at least one > direction. Next, let's say that if A-B and B-C are connected, then A-C > are too. Hold it right there. That assumes that every w

Re: [WikiEN-l] Serious problems with interlanguage links

2008-12-06 Thread Michel Vuijlsteke
2008/12/6 Eugene van der Pijll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > (who is a bit ticked off about this subject because of all the work he's > done to keep incorrect wikilinks off the [[Hoek]] dab page...) > Sorely tempted to add a reference to Ren Höek to [[Hoek]]. :D Michel __

Re: [WikiEN-l] Serious problems with interlanguage links

2008-12-06 Thread Carl Beckhorn
On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 03:22:55PM +0100, Eugene van der Pijll wrote: > Lukasz Bolikowski schreef: > > A short introduction: let's say that two articles are connected if there > > is an interlanguage link from one to the other in at least one > > direction. Next, let's say that if A-B and B-C are

Re: [WikiEN-l] Serious problems with interlanguage links

2008-12-06 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
Carl Beckhorn schreef: > The assumption that if A-B and linked and B-C is linked then A-C are > linked is perfectly reasonable. If page A on wiki A is not on the same > topic as page B on wiki B, there really shouldn't be an interlanguage > link. > > For example, if wiki A has separate articles o

Re: [WikiEN-l] Serious problems with interlanguage links

2008-12-06 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
Michel Vuijlsteke schreef: > Sorely tempted to add a reference to Ren Höek to [[Hoek]]. :D Why not? I once added Hugh Grant to [[Hugo the Great (disambiguation)]]. I was reverted... Eugene ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsu

Re: [WikiEN-l] Abolishing image placeholders; again

2008-12-06 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 6:27 AM, Andrew Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This has been discussed at some length on this list before (ad > infinitum, as I recall), and people might like to know it seems to > have discreetly moved to the next stage: IFD. This is, what, round > four? > > http://en.wik

Re: [WikiEN-l] Serious problems with interlanguage links

2008-12-06 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Eugene van der Pijll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lukasz Bolikowski schreef: >> A short introduction: let's say that two articles are connected if there >> is an interlanguage link from one to the other in at least one >> direction. Next, let's say that if A-B and B

Re: [WikiEN-l] Serious problems with interlanguage links

2008-12-06 Thread Carl Beckhorn
On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 11:40:13AM -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > Lukasz analysis depends on linking being communicative, but this can > only be true when there is only one kind of link (x is the same > subject no more, no less as y). If we limited ourselves to that it > would preclude the "x is

Re: [WikiEN-l] Abolishing image placeholders; again

2008-12-06 Thread David Gerard
2008/12/6 Gregory Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > They stopped being so useful after enwp increased the account > requirements to be able to upload, which is why they haven't been > placed in many articles lately. :( I'll start placing them in articles again if at least a few others will do so as

Re: [WikiEN-l] Abolishing image placeholders; again

2008-12-06 Thread geni
2008/12/6 David Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2008/12/6 Gregory Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> They stopped being so useful after enwp increased the account >> requirements to be able to upload, which is why they haven't been >> placed in many articles lately. :( > > > I'll start placing them in

Re: [WikiEN-l] OT: Peer review gone awry - "The Case of M. S. El Naschie"

2008-12-06 Thread Ray Saintonge
Carcharoth wrote: > The ideal is a mix of lots of tertiary and secondary sources. We need > to use multiple and independent sources to avoid over-representing or > copying a single source (in the sense of 'light rewriting' or 'close > paraphrasing'), and to produce something that is distinct and >

[WikiEN-l] Pernicious cases of Process over Product

2008-12-06 Thread Phil Sandifer
Or: The Continuing Saga of the Disaster That is Notability [[Fábio Pereira da Silva]] is a player on the first squad of Manchester United - the current European club football champions. This is, by any standard, a big deal. He passes [[WP:N]] trivially, requiring all of 15 seconds to find mu

[WikiEN-l] UK ISPs blocking some pages

2008-12-06 Thread Judson Dunn
Looks like some ISPs in the UK are blocking some pages on enwiki, bug here https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16569 Just for general interest, people are already dealing with it it seems. Judson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cohesion _