Re: [WikiEN-l] To boldy delete what no one had deleted before!

2009-01-12 Thread White Cat
Fiction articles do not deserve to be exiled into someones userspace. Them being in the article namespace is not disruptive as stub articles are not banned. If I am wrong in my assessment then all stub articles should be moved to someones userspace. I wager even the attempt of applying such a stand

Re: [WikiEN-l] Interesting article on restored copyrights in US works between 1923 and 1964

2009-01-12 Thread SPUI
Andrew Gray wrote: > [posted to commons-l and wikien-l; someone may want to forward it to > wikisource-l, perhaps?] > > I've just run across this article, which might be of use in helping > those who work on the eternal problem of determining whether or not a > given 20th-century work is in copyri

Re: [WikiEN-l] Interesting article on restored copyrights in US works between 1923 and 1964

2009-01-12 Thread Carcharoth
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:03 PM, Andrew Gray wrote: > 2009/1/12 geni : > >>> I've just run across this article, which might be of use in helping >>> those who work on the eternal problem of determining whether or not a >>> given 20th-century work is in copyright in the US. >> >> We don't use the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Interesting article on restored copyrights in US works between 1923 and 1964

2009-01-12 Thread Andrew Gray
2009/1/12 geni : >> I've just run across this article, which might be of use in helping >> those who work on the eternal problem of determining whether or not a >> given 20th-century work is in copyright in the US. > > We don't use the copyright not renewed clause stuff and commons' > general supp

Re: [WikiEN-l] Deletion for its own sake (was MUD history)

2009-01-12 Thread Carcharoth
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Ken Arromdee wrote: > rcasm> > That's a blog, so it doesn't count. > > > While we've discussed this, there are some new points, and I think the > canvassing problem is one of the worst. It ends up meaning that the people > who are affected by a change never get t

Re: [WikiEN-l] Deletion for its own sake (was MUD history)

2009-01-12 Thread Ken Arromdee
rcasm> That's a blog, so it doesn't count. While we've discussed this, there are some new points, and I think the canvassing problem is one of the worst. It ends up meaning that the people who are affected by a change never get to participate in the decision, because it's impossible to inform th

Re: [WikiEN-l] Deletion for its own sake (was MUD history)

2009-01-12 Thread Fred Bauder
Wikipedia's War on Gaming History and Threshold RPG Article by Michael Hartman (4,659 pts ) Published on Jan 10, 2009 Wikipedia is currently dominated by a powerful deletionist movement. MUDs and Gaming History are frequent targets, and Threshold RPG recently found itself in the Wikipedian crossha

Re: [WikiEN-l] Interesting article on restored copyrights in US works between 1923 and 1964

2009-01-12 Thread Garion96
That was an interesting read. Will read the full version soon. Especially since I encountered some images a while ago where it was stated that the copyright was not renewed. For people interested (and I would be glad to have more opinions) see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Possibly_unfree

Re: [WikiEN-l] MUD history dissolving into the waters of time

2009-01-12 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: >I seem to recall the issue on this mailing list >centered around whether a certain Japanese >word was indeed mistranslated, and created >a metric mailing-list load of discussion on one >of the wikipedia mailing-lists... It was similar to the mud

Re: [WikiEN-l] MUD history dissolving into the waters of time

2009-01-12 Thread Alvaro García
Oh, but in no part in the article I put that it was a translation, I just said it was an interview with Rockaxis. -- Alvaro On 12-01-2009, at 12:43, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > Alvaro García wrote: >> It's a joke, right? >> >> >> -- >> Alvaro >> >> > > Sadly, no. > > I seem to recall th

Re: [WikiEN-l] MUD history dissolving into the waters of time

2009-01-12 Thread Philip Sandifer
On Jan 12, 2009, at 10:43 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > Alvaro García wrote: >> It's a joke, right? >> >> >> -- >> Alvaro >> >> > > Sadly, no. > > I seem to recall the issue on this mailing list > centered around whether a certain Japanese > word was indeed mistranslated, and created > a met

Re: [WikiEN-l] Deletion for its own sake (was MUD history)

2009-01-12 Thread Alvaro García
See? Even if I put the formalsource for my Waters interview, it would be put as "unverifiable" -- Alvaro On 12-01-2009, at 12:19, Philip Sandifer wrote: > > On Jan 11, 2009, at 8:56 PM, David Gerard wrote: > >> Well, not really. If they don't believe a given item can have >> reliable >> so

Re: [WikiEN-l] MUD history dissolving into the waters of time

2009-01-12 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Alvaro García wrote: > It's a joke, right? > > > -- > Alvaro > > Sadly, no. I seem to recall the issue on this mailing list centered around whether a certain Japanese word was indeed mistranslated, and created a metric mailing-list load of discussion on one of the wikipedia mailing-lists...

[WikiEN-l] Deletion for its own sake (was MUD history)

2009-01-12 Thread Philip Sandifer
On Jan 11, 2009, at 8:56 PM, David Gerard wrote: > Well, not really. If they don't believe a given item can have reliable > sources - the sort of rabid nutters who brag about deletion tallies on > their user pages - then they just won't accept anything. I speak here > from observation of the phen

Re: [WikiEN-l] MUD history dissolving into the waters of time

2009-01-12 Thread Alvaro García
Because it's Wikipedia, they would go and say that the source isn't verifiable and that the magazine isn't known. Because anyway, I put "On an interview in the X/ Rockaxis edition, Roger Waters stated that..." -- Alvaro On 12-01-2009, at 4:08, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: > The source is the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Interesting article on restored copyrights in US works between 1923 and 1964

2009-01-12 Thread Matthew Brown
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:14 AM, geni wrote: > We don't use the copyright not renewed clause stuff and commons' > general support for Must be PD in the country of origin as well as the > US means we mostly dodge the issue. We have in some cases used non-renewed that I've seen, but rarely. Only ca

Re: [WikiEN-l] Interesting article on restored copyrights in US works between 1923 and 1964

2009-01-12 Thread geni
2009/1/12 Andrew Gray : > [posted to commons-l and wikien-l; someone may want to forward it to > wikisource-l, perhaps?] > > I've just run across this article, which might be of use in helping > those who work on the eternal problem of determining whether or not a > given 20th-century work is in co

[WikiEN-l] Interesting article on restored copyrights in US works between 1923 and 1964

2009-01-12 Thread Andrew Gray
[posted to commons-l and wikien-l; someone may want to forward it to wikisource-l, perhaps?] I've just run across this article, which might be of use in helping those who work on the eternal problem of determining whether or not a given 20th-century work is in copyright in the US. http://www.dlib