Re: [WikiEN-l] How to ignore wikien-l.

2009-03-28 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/28 Guettarda guetta...@gmail.com: Or you can dedicate an email account simply to wikien-l, and only check it once or twice a week, preferably when you only have a few minutes to devote to reading it.  And make sure it's gmail, so that threads are grouped.  It's much easier to ignore a

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to ignore wikien-l.

2009-03-28 Thread Soxred93
I use apple mail to automatically move wikien-l messages to a separate folder. In addition, threads with the same title get automatically highlighted, so that's how I can follow it. X! On Mar 28, 2009, at 8:02 AM [Mar 28, 2009 ], David Gerard wrote: 2009/3/28 Guettarda guetta...@gmail.com:

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-28 Thread Charlotte Webb
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote: Nationalism is a major factor in school social studies curricula, and a great medium for indoctrinating the child with official truth.  Access to Wikipedia and other on-line sources helps him to formulate the questions

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-28 Thread Carcharoth
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Charlotte Webb charlottethew...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote: Nationalism is a major factor in school social studies curricula, and a great medium for indoctrinating the child with official truth.  

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-28 Thread doc
Carcharoth wrote: [Correcting previous post - can't Wikipedia have editable posts?] On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Charlotte Webb charlottethew...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Ray

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-28 Thread Carcharoth
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 1:32 PM, doc doc.wikipe...@ntlworld.com wrote: Carcharoth wrote: [Correcting previous post - can't Wikipedia have editable posts?] On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Charlotte Webb

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to ignore wikien-l.

2009-03-28 Thread Oskar Sigvardsson
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Guettarda guetta...@gmail.com wrote: Or you can dedicate an email account simply to wikien-l, and only check it once or twice a week, preferably when you only have a few minutes to devote to reading it.  And make sure it's gmail, so that threads are grouped.  

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-28 Thread Charlotte Webb
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 7:32 AM, doc doc.wikipe...@ntlworld.com wrote: I think I'll stay off the koolaid and stick with democracy, professionalism, and expertise - yes it can be, on some occasions, stupid, biased and myopic, but it is still the best system we've got. Well, I know everyone's

Re: [WikiEN-l] Notability policies for articles on open-source software

2009-03-28 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Dan Dascalescu wrote: Among those deletions there have been cases of articles on active software projects, with large user bases, being deleted on grounds of lack of notability (e.g. [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Foswiki]]). Oh, ick. That has several problems, some of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-28 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/3/28 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com: Doesn't that make the board of education part of the problem? So, replace all such specialist elected and accountable bodies (or bodies accountable to the elected) with a wiki? Not sure such bodies are accountable (at least not in the UK).

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to ignore wikien-l.

2009-03-28 Thread Chris Down
Hey, I have a whole different email account for my mailing lists. :) On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Oskar Sigvardsson oskarsigvards...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Guettarda guetta...@gmail.com wrote: Or you can dedicate an email account simply to wikien-l, and only

Re: [WikiEN-l] User:Faithlessthewonderboy

2009-03-28 Thread Charlotte Webb
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote: Why shouldn't a person making such outrageous deletions be named?  Are you denying that he made them? Well there were others too. You could just as easily complain about RayAYang or Cocktotheface.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-28 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/28 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: 2009/3/28 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com: Not sure such bodies are accountable (at least not in the UK). Definitely not elected in the UK. The UK National Curriculum is determined by parliament, I believe - definitely an elected body.

Re: [WikiEN-l] User:Faithlessthewonderboy

2009-03-28 Thread Ray Saintonge
Charlotte Webb wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: Why shouldn't a person making such outrageous deletions be named? Are you denying that he made them? Well there were others too. You could just as easily complain about RayAYang or Cocktotheface.

[WikiEN-l] Legal examination

2009-03-28 Thread doc
Examination Question: Read the following Sarah H. Cleveland is the Louis Henkin Professor of Human and Constitutional Rights at Columbia Law School. She is a noted advocate of the use of international law in U.S. courts. In her widely celebrated 2007 Civil Procedure final exam, she referenced

Re: [WikiEN-l] Legal examination

2009-03-28 Thread Carcharoth
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 8:23 PM, doc doc.wikipe...@ntlworld.com wrote: snip Students should now write an essay on one of the following: 1) In terms of personal jurisdiction, analyze whether an allegedly defamatory Wikipedia page edit can establish jurisdiction over the user in an

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-28 Thread WJhonson
You're being hyperbolic. That isn't a good way to counter an argument. In a message dated 3/28/2009 6:33:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, doc.wikipe...@ntlworld.com writes: Replace the expert, who wrote the textbook, with the anarchy of the truth according to whoever made the last

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia isn't just a good idea - it's compulsory

2009-03-28 Thread WJhonson
I like that. I wonder if there is a bot that automagically adds an unsourced tag to any article with zero or one source? That would actually be a USEFUL bot. I can't believe I just said that. Will In a message dated 3/28/2009 7:11:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

[WikiEN-l] Licensing update progress notice

2009-03-28 Thread Robert Rohde
The licensing update proposal [1] to dual license all Wikimedia Foundation wikis under both the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License (CC-BY-SA) is moving into its final phase. This proposal has been put forward by the Foundation and made