Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-03 Thread Scientia Potentia est
Sounds a lot like Simple English Wikipedia. bibliomaniac15 --- On Fri, 4/3/09, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: From: Jussi-Ville Heiskanen Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview To: "English Wikipedia" Date: Friday, April 3, 2009, 6:13 PM David Gerard wrote: > http://www.bigoakinc.com/blog/inte

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-03 Thread David Goodman
Very few academics are actually good textbook writers; they usually need extensive help from editors who know the art. David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > David Gerard wrote: >> http://www.bigoak

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-03 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
David Gerard wrote: > http://www.bigoakinc.com/blog/interview-with-wikipedia-founder-jimmy-wales/ > > > A very nice and reflective interview, waxing philosophical. The only regret I personally have about that one, is that Jimbo missed the one big opening at a knock-out punch vis a vis citizend

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-03 Thread David Gerard
2009/4/3 Gwern Branwen : > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:55 PM, David Gerard wrote: >> http://www.bigoakinc.com/blog/interview-with-wikipedia-founder-jimmy-wales/ > 'I think the whole debate is silly.  Ironically, I think Larry is given too > little credit for his role in the early days of Wikipedia

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-03 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:55 PM, David Gerard wrote: http://www.bigoakinc.com/blog/interview-with-wikipedia-founder-jimmy-wales/ - d. 'I think the whole debate is silly. Ironically, I think Larry is given too little credit for his role in the early days of Wikipedia as the “editor-in-chief

[WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-03 Thread David Gerard
http://www.bigoakinc.com/blog/interview-with-wikipedia-founder-jimmy-wales/ - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Students use Wikipedia, they just don't mention doing so

2009-04-03 Thread geni
2009/4/3 David Gerard : >> Looking at the actual report the treasure hunt concept seems >> interesting if the exact opposite of something I sometimes do with >> wikipedia (find a random slightly obscure source then use it to add >> info to appropriate wikipedia articles). > > > Pretty much. See a f

Re: [WikiEN-l] Students use Wikipedia, they just don't mention doing so

2009-04-03 Thread David Gerard
2009/4/3 geni : > 2009/4/3 David Gerard : >> http://lisagoldresearch.wordpress.com/2009/04/02/im-shocked-to-discover-theres-gambling-in-this-casino/ > We know this. It's pretty much the reaction of journalists when told > to stop useing wikipedia. Well, a journalist's job is pretty much to turn

Re: [WikiEN-l] Students use Wikipedia, they just don't mention doing so

2009-04-03 Thread geni
2009/4/3 David Gerard : > http://lisagoldresearch.wordpress.com/2009/04/02/im-shocked-to-discover-theres-gambling-in-this-casino/ > > > - d. We know this. It's pretty much the reaction of journalists when told to stop useing wikipedia. Looking at the actual report the treasure hunt concept seems

Re: [WikiEN-l] Earth Deletion Discussion

2009-04-03 Thread geni
2009/4/3 Carcharoth : > Not quite. If someone disagrees with you, you can explain why they are > wrong, and at the end of the argument, you can appeal to common sense. > Sometimes, if that person steps back and considers things with that > mention of common sense in mind, they will be persuaded. P

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to ignore wikien-l.

2009-04-03 Thread Jay Litwyn
One thing you might want to do to begin is mark all threads as "read", probably with a right-click. That way you are not apt to get into conversations that other people consider stale. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsub

Re: [WikiEN-l] current events in Wikipedia

2009-04-03 Thread Falcorian
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:17 AM, David Gerard wrote: > 2009/4/2 Al Tally : > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Carcharoth >wrote: > > >> Dunno, but your post ended up in my spam filter for some reason. FYI > >> in case it helps and in case others also had the same problem. > >> Hopefully this rep

Re: [WikiEN-l] A proposal to simplify and improve image markup in Wikipedia

2009-04-03 Thread Michel Vuijlsteke
Great stuff, all of this. Seriously, thanks. 2009/4/3 Håkon Wium Lie > I've spent the last few days analyzing Wikipedia's HTML code for > images and captions. The current code is quite good, but verbose and > it has redundancies. Here is a proposal that describes how to simplify > and improve th

Re: [WikiEN-l] Students use Wikipedia, they just don't mention doing so

2009-04-03 Thread Fred Bauder
> http://lisagoldresearch.wordpress.com/2009/04/02/im-shocked-to-discover-theres-gambling-in-this-casino/ > > > - d. http://www.projectinfolit.org/pdfs/PIL_ProgressReport_2_2009.pdf Pages 11 to 13 Fred ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikime

[WikiEN-l] A proposal to simplify and improve image markup in Wikipedia

2009-04-03 Thread Håkon Wium Lie
I've spent the last few days analyzing Wikipedia's HTML code for images and captions. The current code is quite good, but verbose and it has redundancies. Here is a proposal that describes how to simplify and improve the code: http://www.princexml.com/howcome/2009/wikipedia/image/ The proposed

Re: [WikiEN-l] Earth Deletion Discussion

2009-04-03 Thread Dan Dascalescu
> I see appeals to common sense as a way to jolt people out of > rules-lawyering. If only more admins had any common sense... I mean no [[WP:ATTACK]] of course: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Foswiki&diff=prev&oldid=268623922 Dan __

[WikiEN-l] [Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Planning to tighten TorBlock settings]

2009-04-03 Thread Brion Vibber
Soliciting feedback on Tor blocking settings... Please comment on wikitech-l or the tech blog if possible to centralize discussion but we'll keep an eye out on these lists too. :) http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/04/planning-to-tighten-torblock-restrictions/ -- brion

Re: [WikiEN-l] Earth Deletion Discussion

2009-04-03 Thread Carcharoth
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 7:27 AM, Ken Arromdee wrote: > On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Casey Brown wrote: >> >> In the end, it should matter what >> >> is written and how it's supported -- not who wrote it. >> > This idea sounds great. Is there a policy or rule for it? >> ?

Re: [WikiEN-l] Saying no to new unreferenced BLPs

2009-04-03 Thread Ray Saintonge
doc wrote: > wjhon...@aol.com wrote: > >> So a flagged rev backlog will only be addressed if we allow all >> established users to so address it, and deny the power to admins to >> unseat a member of the group. It should probably be automatic at a >> certain edit count or length of stay or so

Re: [WikiEN-l] Saying no to new unreferenced BLPs

2009-04-03 Thread Ray Saintonge
doc wrote: > Personally I could agree that the power to "remove reviewer right" could > be restricted to some special class of user, but only if the power to > "grant reviewer right" is subject to even more scrutiny. > > If reviewer right is wrongly removed - we'll have the internal problem > of